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The Book Review

Tom Perrotta on the Return of Tracy Flick

The Book Review

The New York Times

Books, Arts

4.23.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Perrotta talks about “Tracy Flick Can’t Win,” and Ann Leary discusses “The Foundling.”

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0:00.0

Maybe about ten years ago, there was a sort of feminist reconsideration of Tracy.

0:10.8

And people say, well, why does everyone hate this character?

0:14.7

Tom Perotta joins us to discuss the return of a famous protagonist in his new novel, Tracy

0:19.6

Flick Can't Win.

0:21.5

Eugenics is basically social Darwinism.

0:24.9

The idea was to have people who are healthy and smart and especially white have more children.

0:34.2

Anne Leary talks about her new novel to Foundling and the riveting real-life stories that inspired

0:38.6

it.

0:39.6

Plus, Alexandra Alter has news from the literary world.

0:43.8

And my colleagues Greg Coles and Liz Harris talk about what they've been reading.

0:48.0

This is the Book Review Podcast.

0:49.8

It's June 10th.

0:50.8

I'm John Williams.

0:54.4

Tom Perotta is here.

0:55.4

You know his work from page end screen.

0:57.3

He's the author of many acclaimed novels, including Little Children, which he adapted into

1:01.7

an Oscar-nominated screenplay, The Leftovers, which later became a series for HBO, and

1:06.7

Election, which was turned into a movie starring a very memorable Reese Witherspoon as its

1:10.9

lead character, Tracy Flick.

1:13.0

Tracy is back now in Perotta's new novel, Tracy Flick Can't Win.

1:17.0

And he joins me now to talk about it.

1:18.4

Hi Tom, thanks for being here.

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