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The Bulwark Podcast

Tom Nichols: She's Daring Them to Pick Sides

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

When Liz Cheney invoked history in her concession speech, Trumpers and anti-anti-Trumpers sneered. But they know the truth of her stance on the Constitution and the rule of law, and they know everything about Donald Trump is a lie. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Happy Wednesday and welcome to the Bullwark podcast to the surprise of absolutely no one.

0:13.2

Donald Trump was able to pick off the crown jewel of his campaign of vengeance, defeating

0:19.7

Liz Cheney in her primary in Wyoming.

0:22.8

And we're going to take a deep dive into that and what it means and what happened.

0:27.8

But let's start with a remarkable concession speech, a non-concession concession speech,

0:34.0

a defiant concession speech.

0:36.6

And joining us today on the podcast to walk us through all of this is our good friend,

0:41.0

Tom Nichols, Professor Emeritus, Tom Nichols, staff writer at the Atlantic and author of

0:47.4

their Peacefield newsletter.

0:49.7

So welcome back on the podcast, Professor.

0:52.5

Thanks, Charlie.

0:53.5

Thanks for having me again.

0:54.5

Do you call your professor or Emeritus?

0:56.9

Tom usually works, especially now that I'm not working there anymore.

1:02.4

But Professor is an honorific title that no one has to use with me anymore.

1:08.0

Okay, so let's talk about Liz Cheney.

1:10.8

I think this is just a remarkable story.

1:13.6

The Muggle World is of course celebrating in the anti-anti-Trump world is trying to explain

1:18.3

well, that's not really because she stepped to Donald Trump.

1:22.8

It's because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:25.6

But let's go to the tape.

1:27.2

We have five cuts from this and let's spend some time with this.

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