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The Bulwark Podcast

Tom Nichols: Secrets and Lies

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

If anyone in America was still thinking that Trump's ties to Epstein were a nothingburger, Trump’s own behavior this week has disabused them of that notion. His panicking and flailing around sure seem exactly like how a guilty man would act. And the sudden firing of Jim Comey's daughter, Maurene—who worked on the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell cases at the DOJ—isn't helping to tamp down the conspiracy theorizing. Meanwhile, Tulsi and Kash are trying to ferret out the unfaithful, and there are still adults in the room when it comes to the Fed. Plus, our nuclear command and control system was organized around the assumption that we would have a sane president, not somebody who has psychotic fantasies about the Unabomber.

Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.
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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller.

0:15.8

Delighted to welcome back with his gold jacket, Professor Emeritus at the Naval War College. He's a staff writer at the

0:22.0

Atlantic. His books include The Death of Expertise. He is the Ageless Enigma, Tom Nichols.

0:28.2

How you doing? You know, we share many things in common, Tim. We do. We do have a lot in common,

0:35.3

and we're going to explore all of those. So the Wall Street Journal had an article last night that I assume anyone listening to this podcast has already seen.

0:42.8

It included what they described as a body card.

0:46.5

It felt like they really dialed in on that word body.

0:49.9

I felt like there was like a little group chat at the Wall Street Journal.

0:52.6

They're like, why? What word can we use here in the, I felt like there was like a little group chat at the Wall Street Journal. We're bald.

1:00.0

Like, what word can we use here in the, you know, in the newspaper?

1:01.5

They settled on body.

1:06.3

The letter was for a 50th birthday card to Jeff Epstein. It was in 2003, so three years before he was indicted for sex crimes.

1:13.6

Jolene Maxwell naturally organized this and included letters from such eminence.

1:20.5

Gre like Alan Dershowitz and the Victoria's Secret Man and also Donald Trump.

1:26.4

And Donald Trump apparently drew a picture of a woman,

1:30.4

naked woman with breasts and his signature was the pubic hair.

1:34.7

This is where we need to say allegedly as reported by the Wall Street Journal.

1:39.8

Allegedly as reported by the Wall Street Journal. And according to the Wall Street Journal,

1:43.1

as provided to the Department of Justice in 2006,

1:46.1

as part of their investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

1:48.3

And he wrote, I guess you'd call it a script or a little mini screenplay.

1:53.3

It was on a typewriter was inside the naked woman drawing.

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