Hello and welcome to the board podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller.

Glad to welcome back. One of your favorites, Professor Emeritus at the Naval War College.

He's a staff writer at The Atlantic. His books include The Death of Expertise. It's Tom Nichols. What's up, man?

Hey, Tim. Good morning. Good to be with you. A reminder to listeners to check out our

Bullwork Takes podcast feed for breaking news because we've had another fucking insane 24 hours.

Israel executed a devastating attack on Iran. The DHS raids are escalating. Trump's

to toad going again. But so we'll get to all that. But I think we got to start with the scene at

the federal building in L.A. where DHS security wrestled Democratic Senator Alex Padilla to the

ground and handcuffed him after he tried to interrupt Christy Nome's press conference

with a question.

Boy, it was quite the scene, Tom.

I've got a lot of thoughts.

What was your, what's your top take on what we saw yesterday?

Well, you know, I used to study Eastern Europe back, you know, in the day I don't want

to live there because this is really, I mean, this is kind of balkanized politics, rough housing and,

and, you know, fascistic authoritarian strong arming. I mean, you don't, I'm sorry, you know,

she knows who Padilla is or she should. My colleague David Frum had a great line on social media. He said, what was she supposed to do? She stops. I see my friend, Senator Padilla is or she should. My colleague David From had a great line on social media.

He said, what was she supposed to do? She stops. I see my friend Senator Padilla's in the audience.

I'll be happy to take your question as soon as I'm done speaking. But instead, everything with this,

with this bunch is, you know, a chest thumping show of force. And so it's shameful, embarrassing as a country,

frightening that people would, you know, manhandle a U.S. Senator. I mean, it's, it's a disgrace

all around. Yeah, it really is. And look, you know, for some folks, I mean, so some of our

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