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The Bulwark Podcast

Tom Nichols: Don't Descend into Darkness

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The existential dread has a strong pull, especially since Trump has made a lot of Americans worse people, but we've had other bad, immoral, and creepy presidents who've sullied the office. Meanwhile, Vance is basically the invisible man while Elon lives in Trump's bedroom, and Andreessen is loading up a pile of BS to justify his vote. Plus, a Tim v Tom Christmas playlist.

Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller.

show notes:

Tom's audiobook version of "The Death of Expertise"
Tim's Christmas playlist
John Ganz book Tom and Tim referenced

Transcript

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0:00.0

Once upon a time, Amazon Music met audiobooks and listeners everywhere rejoiced.

0:05.8

Oh yeah.

0:06.6

Because now they could listen to one audiobook title a month from an enormous library of popular

0:11.7

audiobook titles, including Romantasy, autobiographies, true crime, and more.

0:19.3

Suddenly listeners didn't mind sitting in traffic or even missing their

0:22.6

flight. Amazon Music Unlimited now includes audible. No way. Download the Amazon Music app now to

0:28.2

start listening. Terms apply. Hey everybody. It's Tim. During this podcast, me and Tom Nichols discuss

0:33.6

speculation that Congressman Jared Moskowitz, a Democrat from Florida, was going to be named

0:39.2

the FEMA director in the Trump administration. Since we taped, Moskowitz tweeted that he is not

0:46.5

going to be interested in that job and that he'll be running for re-election as a Democrat in Florida,

0:51.6

something that I commend him for. I wanted to leave that exchange,

0:55.0

though, in the podcast, because I do think it speaks to some real fundamental questions

0:59.7

about how Democrats and how the handful of anti-Trump Republicans that exist, how they should

1:06.4

deal with this administration and kind of the ethics of that and the strategic thinking around, you know,

1:11.9

how to engage at the Trump administration. So we're going to keep that in there because I think

1:15.8

the conversation is informative around that question. But the good news is Moskowitz is not going

1:20.4

anywhere. The Democrats are not going to lose a seat in the House of Representatives.

1:24.8

All right. Up next, our friend, Tom Nichols.

1:35.8

Yeah. in the House of Representatives. All right. Up next, our friend, Tom Nichols. Hello and welcome to the Buller podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. I've been having fun in

1:39.6

the green room. But before we get to the guest, we're in the final stretch between Christmas or

1:43.6

Hanukkah or whatever you're celebrating this year. It's Trump is going to be president again guest, we're in the final stretch between Christmas or Hanukkah or

1:44.4

whatever you're celebrating this year.

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