Tom Holland (Part Two)

Walking The Dog with Emily Dean

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Comedy, Unknown, Kids & Family, Pets & Animals, Comedy Interviews, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 7 March 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In the second part of our walk with podcaster, historian and author Tom Holland - we dive into Tom’s phenomenally successful career: his surprising start in literature, what it means to be a popular historian and the unstoppable rise of the podcast he hosts with Dominic Sandbrook, The Rest Is History. If you haven’t listened to the first part out this episode yet, you can listen to it here You can listen to The Rest Is History wherever you get your podcasts! Ray’s favourite episode of The Rest Is History: ‘History’s Greatest Dogs’ is here. For more information about The Rest Is History, including live dates and The Rest Is History Club you can visit: https://therestishistory.supportingcast.fm/ Tom’s latest book Pax is available now! Follow Emily: Instagram - @emilyrebeccadean X - @divine_miss_em Walking The Dog is produced by Faye Lawrence Music: Rich Jarman Artwork: Alice Ludlam Photography: Karla Gowlett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Part 2 of Walking the Dog with Historian Tom Holland, host of the Unstoppable
0:06.4	Restas History Podcast.
0:08.2	And if you enjoy that show, I think you're going to love this because it's fair to say
0:12.3	even on a casual dog walk in the
0:13.9	park Tom really delivers on the history front. It was fascinating to hear how that
0:19.4	show all came about and why he loves chatting so much about history and yes I did ask him how many times a day he thinks about the Roman
0:26.8	Empire. No spoilers but put it this way it's even more than Raymond thinks about
0:32.0	cheese.
0:33.0	I really hope you enjoy part two of my chat with Tom Holland,
0:36.0	and if you want to hear more Tom, you can obviously hear him on the brilliant
0:39.0	Restis History Podcast with Dominic Sandbrook,
0:42.0	which is quite frankly a thing of total joy.
0:44.4	I'll hand over to the man himself now. Here's part two with Tom and Raymond.
0:50.0	So tell me, Cambridge you graduate and then you go and do well then you see I
0:57.2	wanted to be great I wanted to be great novelist and this is why I did English
1:01.4	rather than history I wanted to be a great writer.
1:04.0	This was my dream.
1:06.0	So it was kind of all about preparing myself for that
1:12.0	and I did a doctorate to try and basically
1:15.1	stop myself from being on the dole.
1:17.8	But I just wasn't a great novelist and it was kind of quite a painful realization that I'd been absolutely deluding myself with this mad fantasy.
1:27.0	Why do you think you weren't a great novelist?
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