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The Interview

Tom Fletcher: What is the impact of US foreign aid cuts?

The Interview

BBC

News, Politics, Government

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Montague speaks to the UN’s humanitarian chief, Tom Fletcher. As President Trump pulls almost all America’s foreign aid spending, what will the impact be on those around the world who most rely on it?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk from the BBC World Service. I'm Sarah Montague. The UN's Office for the Coordination

0:06.4

of Humanitarian Affairs, or OCHR, received $33 billion in funding last year, helping almost 200 million

0:14.1

people in crisis around the world. Over 40% of that money came from the United States. OCHR had hoped to raise nearly $50 billion this year,

0:24.8

but President Trump has pulled almost all-American foreign aid.

0:28.8

My guest in an interview recorded on February the 12th

0:31.5

is Tom Fletcher, the new head of OCHR, which makes him one of the most powerful aid workers in the world.

0:37.1

What does the US

0:37.9

decision mean for his work? And what does it mean for the decades-old system of rich countries

0:43.4

helping poorer ones? Tom Fletcher, welcome to Hard Talk. Thank you for having you, Sarah.

0:48.2

What effect has the US aid funding decision had on what you do? Well, there's great anxiety across the whole

0:56.2

humanitarian system. Of course, this isn't just the United Nations and the humanitarian agencies

1:00.7

that I coordinate. It's NGOs, it's frontline workers, it's the communities. Most importantly,

1:07.0

it's the people we're here to serve, the people whose lives we're here to save. So there is anxiety. Clearly, we're waiting at the moment. We're in this review phase and we'll

1:16.4

see to what extent the cuts transpire. That's where we are in the process right now.

1:23.0

Okay, but the immediate thing was to freeze all funding. And then Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, I issued a blanket waiver that said,

1:30.5

if this is a life-saving program, if it's providing food or medicine,

1:35.0

or anything that is saving lives, you're not included in the freeze.

1:38.9

So what do you understand by that?

1:41.3

What would you understand by that?

1:42.3

Well, that's welcome clarification, because, of course, most of what we do, we would put in that category. You know, it's the food

1:48.5

that the World Food Program distribute. It's the life-saving work that UNICEF do to support the

1:54.5

world's children. It's the support that the World Health Organization do to keep people alive

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