Welcome to Kaffiru cast everyone today. I have my super good friend longtime traditional archer Tom Clum senior

Across from me. What's going on? No, not much, buddy. Good morning. So you can imagine with Tom and I on the mic

If you're not into traditional archery, you're probably not gonna listen to this one

Although you will learn something about form and function of shooting a bow

So maybe you do want to listen, but we're probably gonna go down to all kinds of rabbit holes

But what we're gonna base most of this on is the new why call it the grip clicker that Tom invented and patented it and it's a new

You know psycho trigger. It's

basically a something he came up with that I feel if you use it correctly fixes a lot of the issues with some of the other

types of clickers and for those who don't know what a clicker is the most common for a traditional bow is

This mechanism that sticks to the top of your limb and then there's a cord that comes off of it that hooks to your string

And when you get to a certain draw length if you're performing back tension correctly and all that other stuff it clicks and

Let's you know when to fire so it's a draw check and a psycho trigger all of those things combined

It's what I've been using, but there is some some downfalls to that one is

trigger panicked

Or it is the signal to collapse for some people other people. It's the signal to spaz out

There's some other issues with it, but Tom why don't you go into

some of the different reasons why that you invented this and downfalls will kind of go from there. Yeah, sounds good

I mean, and I want to address

Trigger to collapse triggered a spaz out because there's specific reasons why that happens

So I'd like to address those

Don't let's not forget to talk about that. Yeah, no kidding

So, you know, I've used a limb mounted clicker

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