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Tom Barkin on Why Central Banking Is on Hard Mode Now

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🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

According to Richmond Federal Reserve Bank President Tom Barkin, much of the time central banking is straightforward. Sometimes it's clear that rate cuts are needed. Sometimes it's clear that rate hikes are needed. Other times everything is going great, and central bankers don't have much to worry about. Right now though, things are not straightforward. There are signs of labor market softening. But also there are reasons to be concerned that inflation pressure is building yet again. In times like this, the playbook is less obvious. On this episode, recorded at the Jackson Hole Economic 
Symposium, Barkin walks us through how he's thinking about the economy right now.

More: Fed’s Jackson Hole Points to a Hard Road Ahead for Powell

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And I'm Joe Wisenthall.

1:25.0

Joe, we're still at Jackson Hole.

1:25.6

Yes.

1:31.5

By the time this episode comes out, the dust will have settled over the entire event.

1:36.9

And we will have gotten, well, we already had the speech from Fed Chair Jerome Powell.

1:37.3

Right, right.

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And this afternoon, as we're recording, we're seeing market surging.

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That's right.

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Everyone, it seems, has interpreted this as pretty dovish.

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