Tom Ascol and the SJ&G Statement
Doctrine and Devotion
Joe Thorn & Jimmy Fowler
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 16 September 2018
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
We got a bonus episode for you all this Sunday! The guys invited Pastor Tom Ascol to come on the podcast to discuss his perspective on the Statement on Social Justice and The Gospel as one of the men behind the controversial statement. What was Tom’s motive and hope for helping to publish this statement? What was the rationale behind asking people to sign the statement? What is something Tom would like opponents of the statement to know about him? In light of how this is playing out so far, if he could go back, would he make any changes or do anything differently regarding the statement?
We didn’t bring our brother on the show to pick a fight, but to gain clarity and insight over something we disagree on. Stay tuned, we will offer another interview with someone who is opposed to the statement.
For more from Tom be sure to visit Founders.org and check out his book, “Traditional” Theology & the SBC.
For all the relevant links and show notes visit
www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/ascol
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to doctrine and devotion. A podcast exploring Christian faith and |
| 0:17.2 | practice from a reformed Baptist perspective. My name is Joe Thorne. |
| 0:20.1 | I'm the lead pastor of Redeemer Fellowship in St Charles Illinois. |
| 0:22.4 | And I'm Jimmy Fowler, executive pastor of Redeemer Fellowship in St. Charles Illinois. |
| 0:22.8 | And I'm Jimmy Fowler, Executive Pastor at Redeemer Fellowship. |
| 0:25.7 | What's going on man? |
| 0:26.7 | Oh man, this is good. |
| 0:27.7 | Well, we're recording with Tom Askel. |
| 0:29.7 | We had, we just got done recording an hour long conversation with Tom Askel one of the guys behind the statement on social justice |
| 0:39.2 | The statement on the gospel and social justice. |
| 0:41.2 | Yeah, something like that. So yeah, yeah, we had some questions for him he gave some |
| 0:44.3 | pushback we ultimately what we really want to do what we really want to do is and |
| 0:49.3 | we're trying to have a couple of these follow-ups on the statement we want to give |
| 0:52.4 | people room to talk we want to try to understand, right? So you guys know, if you listen to our episode, we're not signing that statement. You know, we don't like the idea of signatures being affixed to it. We think by attaching the signatures to it it becomes more of a, you know, pick |
| 1:07.5 | aside. I don't know that it helps in conversation to have the statement but the statement itself is |
| 1:15.5 | generating a lot of attention and some conversations and a lot of |
| 1:21.9 | stupid things being said on both sides as well. |
| 1:25.0 | So we wanted to say, let's talk with like who's the most gracious guy. |
| 1:29.1 | Who's the most chill? |
| 1:30.4 | And it happens to be a guy that we know. |
| 1:31.7 | So, oh yeah, I mean, well, Joe, I mean, you know, |
| 1:35.0 | I've known for years. |
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