Tom and Sheri Eckert - Oregon Psilocybin Therapy Initiative
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ποΈ 5 May 2020
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Summary
In this episode, Joe interviews Tom and Sheri Eckert, organizers of the Oregon Psilocybin Therapy Initiative. The IP 34 is the bill that would legalize psilocybin therapy.
3 Key Points:
- IP 34 asks the Oregon Health Authority to create a licensing system that will create a regulated program where Oregonians suffering from depression, anxiety, trauma and other challenges can see a licensed and trained facilitator to receive supervised psilocybin therapy.
- IP 34 was written by licensed therapists in Oregon along with the country's leading advocates in the field. It is supported by healthcare professionals, treatment providers, veterans' groups and community leaders across the state.
- There has been a multitude of studies from leading medical research institutions such as Johns Hopkins, UCLA, and NYU showing that psilocybin therapy works.
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Show Notes
About
- Tom and Sheri began their interest in psilocybin research about 5 years ago when they read an article in The New Yorker by Michal Pollan
- They realized how powerful psilocybin was for clinical work
- They are both therapists, and were inspired to find out if there was a way to create a modality that allowed them to provide psilocybin therapy to help their clients
Psilocybin Assisted Psychotherapy
- Psychotherapy is supposed to be experiential, the breakthrough is where the change happens
- Sheri says that psilocybin therapy gets all parts of the brain in communication together
- "The more intense the mystical experience the more clinical outcomes that are achieved" - Tom
Ballot Initiative
- They started in 2015
- They wanted the breakthrough studies and the research proving low risks to work for them
- The psychedelic community was very helpful
- They went through rotations with the way the initiative was written
- They like the therapy model, its safe, careful and mindful
Clause
- Joe asks about a Supremacy Clause, where the state supersedes local districts
- This initiative does not get in the way of any other initiative
- There are angles on all different types of drug policy reform
- There is nothing in the IP34 that blocks any other initiative like decriminalization
- We are all a part of the big picture, we all need to work together
GMP Psilocybin
- They wanted to keep this in the frame of non-commercialization
- Their goal with this is not about money, it's really about the healing
- "We are trying to move forward a healing modality to help people, we are trying to legalize psilocybin assisted psychotherapy" - Tom
- There is a part in the initiative that says measures will have to be taken to make sure the psilocybin is 'food grade' standard or in general just clean and safe
Oregonians to Sign the Petition
- Download the petition, sign it, and mail it in
Final Thoughts
- Sheri says that the team behind the initiative is inspired by what is happening globally around psilocybin and research
- They are right at the end of their signatures, but they need help to reach the goal
- "We've got to see the bigger picture here, and get behind it." - Tom
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About Tom and Sheri Eckert

As husband-and-wife founders of the Oregon Psilocybin Society (OPS) and authors of the Psilocybin Service Initiative (PSI), Tom and Sheri Eckert have set in motion a historic campaign to legalize Psilocybin Services, also known as Psilocybin Assisted Therapy, in their home state of Oregon. A growing number of Oregonians are getting behind the idea, largely in response to the latest science. The Eckerts, with a growing army of volunteers, are spreading a truth held increasingly self-evident: that the psilocybin experience, when facilitated under safe and supportive conditions, can be a life-changing gift.In addition to their activism, the Eckert's own and operate "Innerwork" β a private psychotherapy practice serving the Portland metro area. Included in their catalog of services is their groundbreaking "Better Man" program, which is shown to neutralize intimate partner and family violence. Sheri has been awarded a Cosmic Sister Women of the Psychedelic Renaissance in support of her presentation at the Spirit Plant Medicine conference.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everybody. Welcome back to psychedelics today. This is Joe Moore. |
| 0:14.5 | Coming at you from Breckin Ridge, Colorado. And today on the show, we have some interesting guests. |
| 0:20.0 | We have the folks behind the IP34 |
| 0:22.5 | initiative in Oregon, where they plan to have a ballot initiative to see if Oregonians want to vote |
| 0:31.2 | on having legal psilocybin for medical purposes only. And this is a really interesting bill. This is novel. I don't |
| 0:41.9 | know of anywhere else in the country doing it this way, but the people behind it really, |
| 0:47.6 | in my opinion, carefully curated the language in the bill. And they got a lot of great people |
| 0:52.1 | behind it, including Paul Stamitz and Dr. |
| 0:54.7 | Broners and many others. So it's a really interesting group and we're here to really just dig |
| 1:00.4 | into that. As they say, this is not where you just go to the psilocybin store and buy some |
| 1:05.8 | mushrooms. This is a little bit different than that where there will be like certified centers |
| 1:10.7 | to offer |
| 1:11.7 | these services after they meet certain criteria. |
| 1:15.8 | And there will be an independent board elected or appointed to have, well, if this passes, |
| 1:22.9 | where experts will contribute to the government really laying everything out in the way that it should, |
| 1:29.6 | I don't know, most ideally be formed according to the board. So it's a really cool organization. |
| 1:34.4 | I'm excited about it and really want to see where it goes. There's certainly some controversy |
| 1:39.1 | around this, but I never really was too sympathetic with that controversy and I'll let you make up your own mind. |
| 1:46.5 | So many of us listening to this are not in Oregon, but the organization needs people in Oregon |
| 1:53.5 | to sign the petition to get it on the ballot. |
| 1:57.7 | So if this is something you're interested in, check it out. |
| 2:02.9 | I think it's yes on IP34.org with the Oregon psilocybin initiative is the other name for the organization. So yeah, check it out. |
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