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Bad Gays

Tokugawa Iemitsu

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

History

4.6842 Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Through the life of this 17th century Japanese shogun, we explore the role of same-sex relationships in Japanese court culture of the time, the radically different meanings of age and gender in different times and places, and a gay teen romance that ends, alas, with being stabbed to death in the bathtub.  Order our book in paperback for a free e-book! ----more---- SOURCES: Louis Crompton, Homosexuality & Civilization, Annotated edition (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 2006) Koichi, “The Gay of the Samurai,” Tofugu, September 30, 2015, https://www.tofugu.com/japan/gay-samurai/ Gregory M. Pflugfelder, Cartographies of Desire: Male-Male Sexuality in Japanese Discourse, 1600–1950 (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2007) Our intro music is Arpeggia Colorix by Yann Terrien, downloaded from WFMU's Free Music Archive and distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Our outro music is by DJ Michaeloswell Graphicsdesigner.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Badgays, a podcast about evil and complicated queer people in history.

0:18.9

I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher, and member of

0:21.6

the board of the Shulis Museum in Berlin. And I'm Qlemy, a writer and author. Well, today

0:28.5

we're talking about Tokugawa Iemetsu, a shogun in Japan in the 17th century.

0:38.3

Yeah. Let's start, I think, by clearing up exactly what Shoguns were.

0:43.3

Shoguns were essentially sort of military leaders who emerged to the 8th century in Japan

0:49.3

at the start of the Hayan period.

0:52.3

And the Kyoto-based empire of the House of Yamoto was at war with the

0:57.5

Emishi, who were an ethnic group, or perhaps a group of different ethnic tribes in the

1:03.6

Tohoku region. Apologies in advance for my pronunciation in this episode. I have been reading

1:10.4

up a little bit on Japanese pronunciation,

1:13.8

but I'm certain I'll get it wrong.

1:17.3

But Tohoku is a region that's at the very north of Honshu,

1:21.3

which is the largest island of Japan.

1:24.2

And Japan was at a time going through this period of immense change.

1:29.5

So over the previous few centuries under the Asuka and Nara periods, the country had seen a number of sweeping

1:35.2

reforms as the ruling class had moved towards a new form of government that was more influenced

1:40.4

by Confucianism and modelled on the Chinese Tang dynasty's rule, really influenced by

1:46.4

what was happening in Japan at the time, in China, sorry, at the time. And this was like an attempt

1:51.9

to sort of consolidate imperial power through centralisation. And the most major of these reforms

1:58.1

was a land reform where the imperial house essentially

2:01.2

nationalized all the land in Japan and redistributed it, effectively sort of ending the power

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