Hi, I'm Alyssa Milano, and this is Sorry Not Sorry. Angry and worried.

Angry and worried, that is what local university students say they're feeling after President Trump threatened to cut off funds from universities that allow what he called illegal protests.

There's another deportation that's also making headlines today, and that is of a prominent Brown University doctor, a professor deported to Lebanon

after returning to the United States after a family visit.

The Trump administration recently announced that the National Institutes of Health, or the NIH,

will make big changes in the way it funds researchers.

White House officials say they'll save $4 billion by capping so-called indirect costs,

or what you might think of as traditional operating expenses.

How is this impactful on an entire student pipeline?

It will impact across the board, Chris.

This is an all out of salt on American higher education.

Thank you. This is an all out of salt on American higher education. Welcome to a new live edition of Sorry Not Sorry.

I am Ben Jackson in for Alyssa Milano, who is currently away filming a TV show,

which maybe makes you sad today, but we'll be make you happy in a couple of months when you get to see her on TV. In the two months since the Trump regime took power, it has worked

feverishly to dismantle the higher education apparatus in the United States. Grant money, funding

research in the billions of dollars, has been stopped or held to use as leverage against

researchers and institutions.

At the same time, Trump and his cronies are working to suppress free speech on campuses,

deporting faculty and graduate students who do not share the administration's views on potentially

a range of issues, including the Israeli-Gaza conflict.

The effects of these actions are terrifying.

And to discuss this, we've invited Todd Wolfson, president of the American Association

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