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Guaranteed Human. And now, Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody. Welcome to Move the Sticks, DJ Buck. With you, Buck. What is going on, man? How you doing? Not too much, DJ. Another fun football weekend is upon us. And so I'm excited to see what takes place over the weekend. Yeah, it should be good. It's a good slate of games. It's a great slate of college games, by the way, looking forward to that. So, man, it might be one of the best Saturdays of the entire year. So looking forward to Saturday, football, followed by a jam-pack Sunday. We're going to get to some of those games, including the game that we're most looking forward to. But before we do that, we did not hit on this yesterday. I wanted to get your thoughts on it. As part of the Jets changes, Robert Sala is out. Jeff Obrick is the interim head coach. They announced the other day that Todd Downing is going to take over the play calling for Nathaniel Hackett.

Nathaniel Hackett stays on staff but not calling plays.

Were you surprised at all by this?

What do you think?

I don't know, man.

I think you're trying to you're trying to serve and appease a lot of different people, right?

So you make the move.

You get rid of Robert Sala,

people that appointed to Nathaniel Hackett as the problem. You keep him, but you demote him.

How does that impact the quarterback? The quarterback came to New York primarily because of his

relationship with Nathaniel Hackett. Nathaniel Hackett has been demoted. What is the relationship

like with Todd Downing? We've seen Todd Downing as an

offensive coordinator. He was once offensive coordinator with the Raiders, Derek Carr, had Derek

Carr and the Titans for a little bit. He was also with the Titans. How much can you change? Like,

it's not a by week. How much can you change? Ultimately, Aaron Rogers is going to call the plays that work for him.

I don't know. I think John Wooden says, never confuse activity with achievement. A lot of activity.

I don't know what it achieves. Yeah, I think, look, we saw it in Hard Knocks a little bit. I mean,

I think that Aaron and Todd Downing developed a really good relationship.

They're in the same room. He's a quarterback coach. I thought more than anything else, you know, I think scheme wise, look, you're going to, Aaron Rogers is going to be involved in the game plan every week. And I'm sure any quarterback that's an elite quarterback is going to have his menu to choose from. If I like this, I don't like that. let's put our game plan together.

This to me, do you remember in the game on Sunday when there was video of Aaron Rogers just going like, give me the play, get the play and get the playing. So I almost feel like, you know, everybody's like, well, are we going to see a different look and scheme and more motion and different things like that. I'm like, I don't know about that. I think more than anything else. That simply might have just been, dude, I need somebody you can think and communicate quick. I want to play in my head as fast as I can get it and this is too slow. Well, let's think about that with Nathania Hackett. There were some issues in Denver with Russell Wilson and plays getting in and delay of game penalties. And we kind of chalked it up and put that on Russell Wilson, but maybe in two different situations, maybe it's the play caller, not being able to think a player or two ahead, hey, if this happens, I'm going to call this. If this happens, I'm going to call the other one, let's go. There's an art to play calling, and it's not only just like the play designs and those things, but it's being able to think two, three

steps ahead of the competition. Todd Dannen would get his opportunity to work with Aaron Rogers

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