Today's Republicans were made in the 1990s

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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Society & Culture, News, Politics, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.6 • 10.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Sean Illing talks with Nicole Hemmer, history professor and author of the new book Partisans. In it, she gives a reinterpretation of the Reagan presidency and what followed, and shows how the conservative political movement entangled with media figures and became what it is in the 1990s. They discuss the doomed but influential presidential campaigns of Pat Buchanan, the rise to dominance of conservative talk radio, and the enduring dangers of political violence. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Nicole Hemmer (@pastpunditry), author; professor, Vanderbilt University References: Partisans: The Conservative Revolutionaries Who Remade American Politics in the 1990s by Nicole Hemmer (Basic; 2022) "The Man Who Won the Republican Party Before Trump Did" by Nicole Hemmer (New York Times; Sept. 8) Talk Radio's America: How an Industry Took Over a Political Party That Took Over the United States by Brian Rosenwald (Harvard; 2019) On the Fairness Doctrine (First Amendment Center; MTSU) GOP Reagan Library Debate (CNN; Sept. 16, 2015) Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of The Gray Area. Subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Patrick Boyd Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:18.0	I've spent a lot of time in recent years, probably too much, thinking and writing about the state
1:29.2	of Republican politics. For me, at least it really began with that familiar scene at Trump Tower
1:36.8	in 2015, when Donald Trump descended that golden escalator and announced his presidential campaign.
1:43.6	I am officially running for President of the United States and we are going to make our country great again.
1:53.6	How stupid are they? I just sold an apartment for $15 million.
1:57.6	Not good. But it could be one to be cool. We're in a bubble. We got nothing but problems.
2:01.6	Congratulations. That's the good thing. We're going to have another build in an ocean.
2:05.6	It can happen.
2:07.6	Most people didn't take Trump seriously at the time. But it became clear very quickly that this
2:15.6	wasn't a fluke, that the Republican party had crossed some kind of imaginary line and become something
2:22.7	different. Or at least that's what we told ourselves. Since then, an obscene amount of ink and
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