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Day after day, we hear about the concerns, the complaints often of those who drive, of those who depend on the train.

We hear their worries about the cost, the unreliability.

But all too rarely do we hear about bus travel, even though buses still account for almost seven out of every ten journeys

by public transports. Now bus routes and passenger numbers have been in long-term decline,

particularly outside the big cities. The statistics are stark. In 2002, there were just over

18,000 numbered bus routes in England. That number's since fallen to just under 11,000.

Ever since the deregulation of buses under Margaret Thatcher's government

way back in the 1980s, councils outside those big cities

have lacked the powers to run and regulate the services

on which many people still depend.

Now, they're getting them back, thanks to what the new Transport Secretary calls a bus revolution.

Earlier this year on the Today Programme, we gave listeners the chance to ask us to look at an issue for them.

And the application we received from Martin and Sandra from McEltsfield, great place.

It's in Cheshire, by the way, was called Where's My Bus?

They both rely on buses to get around.

They met on a Facebook group dedicated to talk about what the buses near them are like.

On Transport correspondent Katie Austin, went to meet them both, starting at Martin's home.

Hi, Martin. Hello, how you doing? Come in, coming. I'm afraid there is only one seat. I'll just

perch. Right. So Martin, if we're off to get a bus now, how would you normally plan this?

You've got to know precisely what the name of the stop is, the bus numbers and things like that.

So this is travel line. What do you do next?

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