It's political.

It's political nonsense.

No, it's political.

We can get a little bit further than what you're talking about in terms of, hey,

everyone has an opinion.

Speech is political.

I think we want something more, and I think AI can do that because our bias is not a strength.

I think where we fundamentally diverge is that at the end of the day, there are scientific

facts, but they all get interpreted.

I don't think there is in some sort of fundamental ground truth that AI or anything else

can necessarily uncover for us.

So, Pai, I have an upcoming interview with Dr. Toby Walsh, super excited about this one,

and I'm thinking that maybe we can talk a little bit about him and about what we might talk about in the interview.

All right, Alex, here's what I've uncovered about Toby Walsh.

One, he's a world-renowned researcher and communicator in the field of AI.

Two, Toby Walsh has won prestigious awards like the Celestino Eureka Prize

and has been named in the international Who's who in AI list of influencers.

Three, he has degrees from Cambridge University and the University of Edinburgh.

Four, Toby Walsh is a professor of AI at UNSW Sydney, CSIRO's Data 61,

and has affiliations with QUT and Uppsala University.

Five, his work spans theoretical AI, drawing from disciplines such as statistical physics, economics, and game theory.

Considering all this, it seems that Toby Walsh would be a fantastic person to interview about AI and its implications on society, ethics, and the future.

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