To Those Celebrating Charlie Kirk’s Death: This is for you!
The 9941 Podcast
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4.9 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 29 September 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
This week, Granger and AntMan talk about one of the most difficult topics yet: people celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk. Instead of rallying anger or division, they slow down to ask why anyone would respond that way and what it says about the deeper shifts happening in our culture.
The conversation moves into the idea of cultural paradigms—different ways societies define right and wrong, honor and shame, or even oppressor and oppressed. Granger shares how these lenses shape the way people view events and how they can make neighbors see each other as enemies.
But the heart of the episode is not politics or culture—it’s the gospel. Granger and AntMan point to Scripture to show that only Christ can break down the walls that separate us, whether those walls are built from ideology, bitterness, or fear. The message is clear: peace comes not from taking sides, but from the cross.
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| 0:00.0 | If you celebrated in any way the murder of Charlie Kirk, I have an important message to tell you today on the podcast. |
| 0:23.2 | Okay, heavy topic today we're going to cover. |
| 0:28.4 | And we, Ant Man, sitting with me, we have not done a whole lot of research here. |
| 0:33.1 | We're going to just speak and see what comes out because we've got a lot of thoughts and we're going to use the Bible and we're going to use some comments we've seen on social media. And we're going to use the Bible, and we're going to use some comments we've seen on social |
| 0:38.9 | media, and we're going to try to help kind of bridge the gap of understanding as we see |
| 0:46.8 | completely different schools of ideas here in America recently this past month. What a month this past September was for us as we saw so many things happening, including the remembrance of 9-11 in the middle of everything else that we saw, specifically thinking about the murder of Charlie Kirk and people that have celebrated |
| 1:14.5 | this murder. And by no means am I, what I'm not trying to rile up in ant bed here. I'm not trying |
| 1:22.7 | to, as Ant Man sitting with me, I'm not trying to rally troops. |
| 1:33.6 | That's not what I'm doing to say we need to rise up against people that have celebrated a murder or that have protested at a funeral, a memorial. |
| 1:37.4 | That's not what this podcast is about. |
| 1:40.3 | If that's why you came to this podcast because of the title, |
| 1:43.6 | then you could, this might not be of interest to you. |
| 1:47.6 | You should listen. |
| 1:48.4 | You should listen because I want to specifically want to speak to the person |
| 1:51.7 | that is celebrating the murder. |
| 1:55.0 | I have something to say about this. |
| 1:57.6 | And so we're going to get to it. |
| 1:58.8 | You mentioned, for instance, you mentioned a video today as we're sitting here of a mother and a couple daughters. |
| 2:08.3 | Two daughters. |
| 2:09.2 | Tell us, tell me that story. |
| 2:11.1 | The video is of a, you don't see the mom. |
| 2:13.8 | The mom's holding the phone. |
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