This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, July 10, 2014.

I'm Caleb Brown.

Your privacy is on the chopping block, but there is some hope for reform.

From the proliferation of law enforcement drones to government

eavesdropping on your phone calls and emails, the calls for reform still continue.

Ted Poe, a Republican congressman from Texas, argues that warrant rules should apply to new technologies,

as they have to old technologies. We spoke this week.

In terms of reasserting privacy rights for Americans, especially in the realm of digital privacy,

new technology has allowed the government to surveil us in all sorts of ways.

Where do you think the low-hanging fruit is?

The problem is that the federal government

finds any excuse it can to eavesdrop, snoop, or spy, whichever those you want to use

on Americans, all in the name of we have to protect you from bad guys.

And so government tries to use the fear tactic of security and safety in an effort to find information,

which I think in many cases is a clear violation of the spirit and the

principles and the written word of the Fourth Amendment.

So in terms of the low-hanging fruit for a long time we've had this idea the third-party doctrine

which is essentially once you give your information to someone else, anyone else effectively, that you've lost your Fourth Amendment interest

in keeping that information secret.

Do you think that that is likely to go away anytime soon?

Well, I don't agree with that principle, although there are many who think that that is a principle,

but I personally do not think that you send information to a party, the person you send the information

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