I'm Maris Kreiseman and yeah. I'm Josh. I'm Josh Gondelman and we are married to each other.

I'm Jane Marie and and this is The Dream.

The name of this show is kind of a joke, because the idea of living the dream is kind of a joke.

And most of the time, we could call our program The Nightmare, but not today.

Today's guests are friends of mine who are living a version of the dream that I think a lot of us find

enviable and fascinating. They made a very simple choice, with radical consequences in terms

of their personal happiness and well-being. Tell me a little more about you.

Like, what do you do, where are you, et cetera?

I have a book out now called I want to burn this Place Down. It's an essay collection about all of the

Relatable. Yes. I mean, look around, right? And I have a newsletter called the Maris Review.

And you can find it just by going to Mariscrizman.com. Great. And that's our hot pug Maggie who's

scratching on the carpet a little bit, which is not a usual Maggie proclivity. I'm Josh and I'm

a writer and comedian. I've worked in television on late night shows like last week tonight with John Oliver and

Dezes and Mero. I've written a book. I do a lot of stand-up. I have a new special out called

Positive Reinforcement. And I also write a newsletter. But writer-comedian, I think, is the headline of

what I do, pug dad. Pug mom.

Celtics fan.

Like just Boston expat.

Yeah.

Josh left out one thing.

For all of you avid public radio listeners, Josh's voice may sound familiar.

He's one of the regular guests on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

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