Our team has been absolutely gripped and horrified by the story of Vanessa Guillen, a soldier who back in April went missing from her base in Fort Hood, Texas.

Vanessa's family says that before she disappeared, she had complained to them about being sexually harassed by a superior.

Last week, her remains were found near the Leon River. She was 20 years old. A suspect in the case,

also a soldier at Fort Hood, took his own life as authorities began to close in. Another suspect

has been arrested and charged with conspiracy to tamper with evidence. Today I'm with two veterans,

Lucy Delgado and Pam Campos Pama. In the first part of our conversation, we talk about Vanessa's

death and how the circumstances around it have brought aspects of military culture into sharp focus.

In the second part of our conversation, we talk about how they're seeking justice for Vanessa.

Over the course of this entire conversation, we discuss sexual trauma and assault in explicit terms.

If that's emotionally challenging or triggering or just too much, please take care of yourself.

Don't listen, listen with someone you love, or wait until you feel ready.

Thank you both so much for taking the time to have this conversation.

Lucy, I want to start with you.

Why did you decide to join the military?

I joined the military, just like a lot of us, Latinas, from lower income demographics.

So both of my brothers served in the military, and I had a very frank discussion with them of which service branch would be better for me.

One was a Marine, one was in the Army.

So I went with the Army basically on the shorter boot camp and that's what made the decision for me.

I just wanted to make a better life.

I wanted to get outside the doors of Union City and just really try to create something for me. I just wanted to make a better life. I wanted to get outside the doors of Union

City and just really try to create something for myself. Pam, how about you? Yeah, it's been

interesting the more I think about this origin story. So I'm originally from Boston. My mom is an

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