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The Classic Ghost Stories Podcast

To Be Taken with a Grain of Salt by Charles Dickens

The Classic Ghost Stories Podcast

Tony Walker

Science Fiction, Fiction, Drama

4.9835 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

A man reads about a murder in his morning paper over breakfast in his Piccadilly rooms. That should be the end of it. But something follows him from that reading — something that refuses to stay on the page. And when fate places him in the jury box at the murder trial itself, he begins to count his fellow jurymen, there there should be twelve, he counts thirteen...

Dickens wrote this story with a title that is itself a warning. Whether you take that warning as a comment on the narrator, on the law, or on the nature of what follows, is a question the story leaves carefully unanswered. *

"To Be Taken with a Grain of Salt"* was first published in the Christmas 1865 edition of *All the Year Round*, Dickens's own literary journal, as part of a collection entitled *Doctor Marigold's Prescriptions*. It was later republished under the titles *The Trial for Murder* and *The Thirteenth Man*.

Charles Dickens (1812–1870) was born in Portsmouth and is widely regarded as the greatest English novelist of the Victorian era. He was also one of the finest writers of ghost stories in the language, and this story was considered the definitive English ghost story for decades, before M.R. James arrived to claim that title.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Everybody dies, don't they?

0:09.0

Everybody come back.

0:12.0

Isn't that so?

0:14.0

You tried to get into the locked drawer today, didn't you?

0:17.0

How do the dead come back, mother?

0:20.0

What's the secret?

0:21.6

To be taken with a grain of salt by Charles Dickens.

0:26.6

I have always noticed a prevalent want of courage, even among persons of superior intelligence and culture,

0:35.6

as to imparting their own psychological experiences when

0:40.2

those have been of a strange sort.

0:44.8

Almost all men are afraid that what they could relate in such wise would find no parallel

0:49.8

or response in a listener's internal life and might be suspected or laughed at.

0:56.3

A truthful traveller, who should have seen some extraordinary creature in the likeness of a sea serpent,

1:03.3

would have no fear in mentioning it, but the same traveller, having had some singular presentiment,

1:10.3

impulse, vagary of thought, vision, so called, dream,

1:15.7

or any other remarkable mental impression, would hesitate considerably before he would own to it.

1:23.7

To this reticence I attribute much of the obscurity in which such subjects are involved.

1:30.3

We do not habitually communicate our experiences of these subjective things, as we do our experience of objective creation.

1:39.3

The consequence is that the general stock of experience in this regard appears exceptional, and

1:46.0

really is so in respect to being miserably imperfect.

1:50.0

In what I am going to relate, I have no intention of setting up, opposing or supporting any theory,

1:58.0

whatever.

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