To Be Gay Affirming (Deluxe Edition) (#205)

Religion on the Mind

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Religion

4.7 • 542 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2023

⏱️ 140 minutes

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**This is a deluxe rebroadcast of the "To Be Gay Affirming" episode** In this “deluxe edition” of our original episode #10 (“To Be Gay Affirming”), Samantha Perez joins Dan for a special introduction on affirming churches, what progress is being made in Christian communities around LGBTQ issues, and changes in ethical plausibility structures — that is, what ethical approaches seem reasonable given a person or community’s changing circumstances over time. Be sure to also check out Samantha and Dan’s upcoming Patreon-only episode focused on her faith and gender journey. Samantha's Twitter Handle @SkipSandwich https://www.skipsandwichdx.com/ ORIGINAL EPISODE DESCRIPTION: This is a tricky one, especially for those who have a genuine desire to take the Bible seriously. The argument for inclusion that J. R. Daniel Kirk presents, however, is one that I find convincing, and it is the best one of the many that I have read or heard (including by Matthew Vines, Gene Robinson, and others). Richard Hay's compassionate argument against affirmation is also presented. Many podcasts on this topic tend to focus on the emotional aspect of the issue, on the increased risk of suicide among queer teens, etc. I think those have their place, but for many Christians, we simply NEED a good argument about what to do with this stubborn text—the Bible—that really does seem to stand against homosexual activity. Daniel presents such an argument. Find an open & affirming church: gaychurch.org Margaret Farley 60 Minutes clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASG5kii-rI James Brownson’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Gender-Sexuality-Reframing-Relationships/dp/0802868630https://twitter.com/jrdkirk _____________ Register for Theology Beer Camp: Theologybeer.camp Use code: YHPGODPOD at checkout! _____________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What I've dedicated my life to is revenge.
0:04.7	A brand new drama based on the best-selling novel.
0:07.5	They think they're better than us?
0:08.5	Who do you think you are?
0:09.8	I'm going to prove to them that they're wrong.
0:11.5	She's punishing me.
0:13.0	You destroyed my family.
0:14.3	I will not rest until I've destroyed yours.
0:17.0	A woman of substance on Channel 4 starts tonight at 9.
0:33.9	No. A woman of substance on Channel 4 starts tonight at 9. Sam Perez, Samantha Perez.
0:37.0	Welcome. Thank you for joining me for this little deluxe edition special. I guess this is like a special forward by a guest author when they reprint a classic work. Is that what this is? Anniversary edition. Anniversary edition commentary forward. We're talking about, you know, episode 10 to be gay affirming.
0:57.8	This is a very early your permission episode.
1:00.1	It is by a significant margin, the most popular episode that I have released.
1:05.9	It has been the most listened to, the most shared.
1:09.4	And, you know, I don't, that's not necessarily shocking. I probably
1:12.5	knew that an episode talking about, you know, queer affirmation of one sort or another would be,
1:19.4	it's kind of the hot topic. It's a big cultural topic. It's a huge issue for people who are going
1:25.1	through various questions about their faith tradition.
1:28.3	Nonetheless, it's been cool to see it get that much attention and for people to tell me that it was
1:34.1	helpful. I feel like I'm curious to hear what you think. I feel like I picked the right guest in
1:39.6	Daniel Kirk. I really like his approach to the question. And I think we could talk a little bit about
1:45.8	any of that stuff. So I'm just, I wanted you to join because you've been with me listening to the
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