TNW 435: Inside the Musk-Altman Trial With Jacob Ward - Tech Leaders Facing Off in Court
Tech News Weekly (Audio)
Leo Laporte
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🗓️ 30 April 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Jacob Ward of The Rip Current joins Mikah Sargent on Tech News Weekly! Jacob shares firsthand impressions from the Elon Musk v. OpenAI trial. Razr unveiled the latest iterations of its foldable phones. And Microsoft released the earliest known DOS source code to the public!
- Jacob just returned from covering the Elon Musk v. OpenAI trial in person! He shared his experience getting inside the courthouse to cover the trial and shares firsthand observations from the courtroom.
- Patrick Holland of CNET stops by to talk about the new Razr foldable phones, his first impressions with the devices, and laments the price hikes with the phones.
- And Mikah shares how Microsoft has released the earliest known DOS source code on GitHub - a collection of 870+ pages of dot matrix-printed assembler listings from the early 1980's!
Hosts: Mikah Sargent and Jacob Ward
Guest: Patrick Holland
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on Tech News Weekly, I am so excited because Jake Ward is here, and Jake was actually in the room where it happened. |
| 0:09.0 | That's right, Elon Musk versus Sam Altman trial. Jake was in one of the 30 seats reserved for the public. |
| 0:16.0 | So we talk about that. We also have Patrick Holland of CNETs stop by to give us the lowdown on Razor's latest |
| 0:23.5 | foldable lineup. |
| 0:25.0 | And I talk about Microsoft's efforts to continue to open source early DOS development. |
| 0:31.9 | All of that coming up on Tech News Weekly. |
| 0:34.2 | Stay tuned. |
| 0:35.2 | Podcasts you love. |
| 0:39.0 | From people you trust. |
| 0:41.5 | This is Twitter. |
| 0:45.0 | This is Tech News Weekly, episode 435, with Jacob Ward and me, Micah Sargent, recorded Thursday, April 30th, 2026, inside the Musk-Altman |
| 0:58.3 | trial with Jacob Ward. |
| 1:01.1 | Hello and welcome to Tech News Weekly, the show where every week we talk to and about the people |
| 1:05.2 | making and breaking that tech news. |
| 1:07.5 | I am but one of the hosts of this show. |
| 1:15.5 | I am Micah Sargent, And we are joined today by, it's been a while, happy to have you back. It's Jake Ward. Hello, Jake. Hello, what's up, Micah? Great to be |
| 1:21.1 | with you. Good to have you here. I am actually, I may or may not have done a few curse words in our email exchange due to |
| 1:28.5 | my excitement about what's going on with you. |
| 1:33.6 | In fact, for this, for the show today, we're going to be taking sort of the first half |
| 1:37.9 | of the show talking about your experience because you went to court. Well, you didn't, but you did, right? |
| 1:46.0 | Tell us all about it. |
| 1:47.0 | I was so excited. |
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