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TNW 385: Wikipedia's AI Strategy Explained - Leila Zia on Keeping AI Accountable at Wikimedia

Tech News Weekly (Audio)

Leo Laporte

Tnw, Twit, Mikah Sargent, Technology News, Technology, News, Jason Howell, Tech News

4.1 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Tech News Weekly, Mikah Sargent and Abrar Al-Heeti explore the growing role of AI in consumer tech, the latest legal setback for Apple's App Store policies, and two in-depth interviews: Bloomberg's Leah Nylen breaks down the DOJ's proposed remedies in the antitrust case against Google, and Wikimedia's Leila Zia shares the foundation's new AI strategy that centers humans—not machines.

  • ChatGPT Adds Shopping Tools: Abrar Al-Heeti highlights OpenAI's new AI-powered shopping experience in ChatGPT, which personalizes product recommendations and integrates purchase links—all without leaving the chat window. She and Mikah explore the implications for consumer trust, affiliate marketing, and the future of Amazon and Google as default shopping destinations.
  • Apple vs. Epic: Court Strikes Back: Mikah breaks down a dramatic new ruling against Apple, in which a judge found the company in violation of a 2021 injunction and imposed strict limits on how it can control third-party payments. Mikah and Abrar discuss how this could reshape the App Store's fee model and what it means for developers and users alike.
  • Google's Antitrust Remedy Phase: Bloomberg antitrust reporter Leah Nylen returns to unpack the latest in the DOJ's case against Google. She explains the three proposed remedies—including a possible Chrome browser divestiture—and what testimony from tech competitors like DuckDuckGo, Perplexity, and OpenAI revealed about Google's dominance in search and AI.
  • Wikipedia's Human-Centered AI Strategy: Leila Zia, Head of Research at the Wikimedia Foundation, outlines their new AI roadmap, which focuses on supporting Wikipedia's volunteer editors rather than replacing them. She details how AI will assist with moderation, multilingual knowledge expansion, and mentorship—all while upholding values of transparency and human agency.

Hosts: Mikah Sargent and Abrar Al-Heeti

Guests: Leah Nylen and Leila Zia

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0:00.0

Coming up on Tech News Weekly, Abraar Al-Hiti is here. We talk about chat GPT, adding shopping to its search, then where things stand with Apple, the Epic, and the App Store.

0:12.3

After that, Leon Elylan, antitrust reporter at Bloomberg stops by to tell us about the antitrust case with Google and its remediation portion before we talk to the head

0:23.2

of research at the Wikimedia Foundation, Leila Zia, about Wikipedia's AI strategy.

0:30.8

It's a fantastic show, so stay tuned for the episode.

0:36.9

Podcasts you love.

0:38.3

From people you trust.

0:41.2

This is Twitter.

0:44.7

This is Tech News Weekly, episode 385, with Abar Alhiti and me.

0:50.9

Micah Sargent, recorded Thursday, May 1st, 2025.

0:57.6

Wikipedia's AI strategy explained.

1:05.5

Hello and welcome to Tech News Weekly, the show where every week we talk to and about the people making and breaking the tech news.

1:14.2

I am one of your hosts this week, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across the internet by the wonderful Abraar Al-Hiti of CNET. Welcome back, Abra. Thank you so much. It's good to have you back.

1:20.2

Yeah, I was going to say, it should be welcome back to me. Thank you so much for doing such a

1:24.7

fantastic job hosting the show. I've heard lots of great feedback.

1:30.1

That's, I'm happy to hear that. Maybe calls to just have you be there and I just go, I don't know.

1:35.4

Never, never. No, it was an honor. And you set a high bar. So I did my best. I think you did

1:42.6

wonderfully. Thank you so much again for doing that.

1:44.6

Of course.

1:45.7

So hopefully many of you are return guests and are very aware of how this works.

1:51.8

But if you aren't, this is the first time here, welcome.

1:55.5

There's nothing under your seat, but there is certainly a lot to enjoy.

2:00.7

So we kick off the show by talking about

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