Welcome back to two judgy girls. This is Courtney from L.A. And I'm with my guest, Ronnie

Karam from Watch What Crappins.

And here's part two of our conversation about Real Housewives of Orange County.

Okay, so Tamara goes to, like, to bring back to the episode as you did. Thank you.

But like she goes to Shannon's room before the dinner.

She's already told Shannon, I will never get waste again.

She's trying to like repair that friendship. Because Tamara,. She's trying to, like, repair that friendship.

Because the way Tamara repairs a friendship is by throwing somebody else under the bus.

So, like, the enemy of my enemy is now my friend.

Like, I feel like that's her dynamic.

So her telling Shannon, like, you'll never see me wasted again, only to five hours later, bring in a glass of wine and a water cup, mix a Xanax, and go

totally nuts at the table.

Yeah.

Would love to hear your thoughts on that action.

First off, she was never trying to repair that friendship.

I mean, this is like classic Tamara when she's really getting ready to stick it to somebody.

Like, this is her plan. She's been laying the plan for a few episodes where I heard something, Katie talked to somebody about something, but it's so bad, I can't say it. You know, get everybody worried about that, get everybody rallied against Katie. And she's like, well, I still need people on my side, right? Like if it's traders, it's a numbers game. So I don't have Jen, I don't have Gretchen, I don't have whoever. So she's like, I need to rally to get at least Gretchen and Shannon, right? Because then it'll be everybody. Emily will do whatever I say, Gina will do whatever she says, and Heather will do whatever I say. So she only has to get Gretchen and Shannon now on her side to vote Katie out. It's basically how she's thinking. It's so true. So she goes up to Gretchen and she's like, Gretchen, yeah, I know, it's so satanic voodism, right? It's just me and you watch Christians out here, Gretchen. And so she starts trying. You're like, oh, Gretchen, I just think it's so pretty. Gretchen, you're such a pretty, pretty girl. I've always thought that. I'm not warm enough friends. Can we just be friends, Gretchen? And I was like, this is bullshit. And she's going to turn in two seconds, right? So then she's got Gretchen, and then she moves on to Shannon. Shannon, I always love

you so much. Can you ever forgive me for God you drunk? I have something mean to me. I'll never do it again,

Shannon. Okay, this is so her because you know she's only doing this because now is the moment

she's going to drop her big, you know, drama on Katie. We're going to get Katie out once and for all. And that was a fail. It was a huge fail. And Gretchen smartened up, thank God. Yep. And saw what Tamara was trying to do and didn't jump on the train. And look what Tamara did. The second Gretchen didn't do what she wanted her to.

She said it.

She said it, everybody. She probably said in first place. Yeah. And then even like when she had left the table and she's like, she went after my daughter. Yeah. So she's going, you know, as soon as it doesn't go her way, she goes, she doesn't know what to do because it usually does go her way. The only other time it didn't was when she ran off in, what was it when Lizzie, they were in Thailand. She said, you'll never see me again. It's like, no, you lied. I've seen this film before. Like, you're coming back. We know what's happening. Like, that's, I think, kind of the only time. Yeah. And so that's why I think the season's so good because people are not going to let Tamara do what she does every other season.

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