TJ Weekly - Sarah Cailean is back!
Undisclosed: Toward Justice
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🗓️ 19 January 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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January 19, 2026 - This week, we chatted with our good friend, Sarah Cailean! She's a homicide investigator, podcaster and expert when it comes to true crime and experience within the criminal justice system.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi and welcome back to Undisclosed Toward Justice. |
| 0:23.8 | Rabia here, and I'm joined, as always, with my colleague, Colin Miller. |
| 0:27.1 | Hey, Colin. |
| 0:27.6 | Hey, how you doing? |
| 0:28.5 | I'm good. |
| 0:29.1 | I'm good. |
| 0:29.4 | I'm excited about this week. |
| 0:30.8 | We have on not just a special guest, but also one of my dearest friends. |
| 0:35.1 | And companions in crime, Sarah Kalen is joining us on the show this week, and you guys all know Sarah. Hi, Sarah. Hi, how are you guys? We're good. Thank you for coming on. Oh my gosh. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. I, for the rest of the world, sent you a voice memo about 20 minutes ago. I was like, wait, what are we doing? I just sort of like, |
| 0:54.9 | you invited me. And I was like, yes, whatever, anything you need. And then it occurred to me. I should probably prep for whatever we were going to talk about. Well, actually, you don't need to prep at all because this is the stuff you eat, breathe, and sleep all the time. And Colin, you might not be aware, but I am aware of Sarah's schedules day by day because that's how we communicate. |
| 1:13.0 | But nailing her down has been tough. And Colin, you might not be aware, but I am aware of Sarah's schedules day by day because that's how we communicate. |
| 1:13.0 | But nailing her down has been tough. |
| 1:15.6 | So, you know, for folks who have been, and we'll explain why, for folks who know Sarah because of this show, Sarah worked with us on a number of our cases, starting with the Jason Carroll case. |
| 1:24.5 | I think the New Hampshire case. |
| 1:25.4 | That was the first one that we had Sarah on for. and I have tapped Sarah to help us with investigation on Adnan's case. |
| 1:33.1 | Sarah, can you tell us a little bit about your background for listeners who might not be familiar with you, though? |
| 1:37.4 | Yeah. So my background, I am a cold case homicide investigator and criminal behaviorist, colloquially, |
| 1:47.1 | that is used to be referred to as a profiler. We don't really use that term professionally anymore. |
| 1:52.4 | Oh, I didn't know that. It sounds so sexy. It does. It sounds sexier than behavioral analyst, |
| 1:57.3 | but, you know, that's, it's essentially the same thing. So I started my career in federal |
| 2:03.3 | law enforcement in 1998, and I switched over pretty quickly to municipal policing, where I spent |
| 2:10.0 | about a decade doing patrol and then sex crimes detective work. And from there, decided to go into |
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