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🗓️ 11 August 2025
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0:00.0 | In 2018, we covered the case of Pam Lanier on the podcast. |
0:27.2 | Pam and her husband Dorian were turkey farmers in Chinquipin, North Carolina, |
0:31.3 | a small crossroads community of about 2,000 residents. |
0:35.3 | Back in August 1997, Dorian injured his leg when he was using his bulldozer to clear |
0:40.7 | farmland. Pam then began caring for Dorian, who was stubborn and refused to see a doctor. |
0:47.3 | Soon, Dorian's physical and mental health started taking a turn for the worse, with Dorian |
0:52.5 | eventually passing away on the night of November 19, 1997. |
0:56.9 | An autopsy eventually revealed that Dorian had lethal levels of arsenic in his system, |
1:01.7 | which led to suspicion that Pam had been fatally poisoning her husband. |
1:08.2 | That said, there wasn't really any evidence that Pam had poisoned her husband, but her first husband had also met an unexpected demise. |
1:17.0 | Specifically, Pam and her first husband, Johnny Ray, lived on Topsla Island on the North Carolina coast back in 1991. |
1:24.7 | But one night in September, Johnny Ray fell into the intercoastal waterway while checking |
1:29.1 | crab pots and fatally drowned. Now, the state had no evidence that Pam had poisoned Johnny |
1:35.8 | Ray, but he wasn't kind of a fugue state in the days before his accident, somewhat similar to |
1:41.4 | the brain fog that had clouded Dorian's judgment. |
1:49.5 | And so, Pam was charged with Dorian's murder, with the state noting its intention to present evidence of Johnny Ray's drowning under the doctrine of chances. |
1:53.7 | This is an evidentiary doctrine that allows the state to present evidence of similar tragedies |
1:58.5 | at trial without any evidence of wrongdoing and simply asking the jury, |
2:04.1 | what are the odds that in this case, an innocent wife, would have two separate husbands, die under suspicious |
2:10.3 | circumstances? As you might imagine, this wasn't the strongest case in the world. As a result, |
2:17.2 | the state offered Pam a pretty sweet plea deal, pre-trial. |
2:20.6 | If Pam pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter, she would get only 20 months in prison. |
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