Hi, and disquoise listeners. I just wanted to do a little bit of a pre-roll here before we get into this week's episode.

This week's episode features a guest who spent many, many years in prison for a crime he did not commit.

Even after his release, he has spent many, many more years trying to be fully exonerated.

Our guest today is 80 years old, and he is in ill health. And you're going to hear this throughout our

interview. So I just want to give you a little bit of heads up to have some patience. His story is

valuable. His fight for a full exoneration is valuable. And even though it might be a little bit hard

to listen to sometimes, I promise you, it'll be worth it. Hi and welcome back to Undisclosed Towards Justice is our weekly episode where every week we like to present a new case to you guys.

I'm here, as always, with my colleague Colin Miller. Hey, Colin, how you doing? Doing great. How about yourself? I'm well. Thank you. This week, I am interested to present

like this case that came to us through our contact form, sent to us by the sister of a defendant

who went through a very difficult experience in the criminal legal system, who fought

to be exonerated for many years, and who is still fighting to be exonerated, even though he's no

longer in prison. I'm going to just give you a little bit of the facts of the case that introduce

our guests and take it from there. In 1976, January 16th, 1976, 47-year-old Richard Krosler opened his door of his Palm Beach home, and he was shot and killed.

He died actually 13 days later, and in those 13 days, he didn't identify the killer.

And then about two years later, a man named Mark Herman was arrested for this murder, and in that same year, he was convicted of it.

I'd like to welcome our guests today, Mark Herman himself and his sister, Julie Gibson.

Hi, Mark and Julie.

Hi.

Hey, team.

How are you guys doing?

They're doing great now.

Somebody who'll get to hear us. Well,

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