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We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network

TIP759: The Art of Spending Money w/ Morgan Housel

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network

Stig Brodersen

Education, Investing, Business

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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On today’s episode, Clay is joined by Morgan Housel to discuss his newest book, The Art of Spending Money — Simple Choices for a Richer Life.  Morgan Housel is a partner at The Collaborative Fund. He's the New York Times Bestselling author of The Psychology of Money and Same As Ever. His books have sold over 8 million copies and have been translated into more than 50 languages. He also serves on the board of directors at Markel. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:04 - The intersection of money and happiness 06:08 - Why Buffett’s inner scorecard can empower us to use money as a tool instead of letting money use us 20:40 - Why the happiest people we know are oftentimes the most content 28:40 - Why chasing status is a game you’ll never be able to win 30:34 - Dopamine’s role in how we spend our money 35:27 - Why not all of our big spending decisions need to be run through a spreadsheet 38:06 - The shocking story of how the Vanderbilts lost billions of dollars due to social debt 46:46 - Why Morgan highly prioritizes spending money on independence And so much more! Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Morgan’s new book: The Art of Spending Money. Morgan’s other books: Same as Ever and The Psychology of Money. Morgan’s Podcast. Related Episode: TIP351: The Psychology of Money w/ Morgan Housel. Related Episode: TIP602: Same as Ever w/ Morgan Housel. Follow Morgan on X. Follow Clay on ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠X⁠⁠. Related ⁠⁠books⁠⁠ mentioned in the podcast. Ad-free episodes on our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Feed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠We Study Billionaires Starter Packs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠⁠⁠sponsors⁠⁠⁠: Simple Mining⁠ ⁠Human Rights Foundation⁠ ⁠Kubera⁠ ⁠HardBlock⁠ ⁠LinkedIn Talent Solutions⁠ ⁠Unchained⁠ ⁠Vanta⁠ ⁠Shopify⁠ ⁠NetSuite⁠ ⁠Onramp⁠ ⁠Public.com⁠ ⁠Abundant Mines⁠ ⁠Horizon Support our show by becoming a premium member! ⁠⁠https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.9

On today's episode, we bring back Morgan Housel to discuss his newest book, The Art of Spending Money, Simple Choices for Richer Life.

0:11.2

Morgan needs no introduction to our listeners. He's the New York Times best-selling author of

0:15.9

The Psychology of Money and same as ever, and his books have sold over 8 million copies.

0:21.0

He also serves on the board of directors at Markell.

0:23.9

During this episode, we discussed the intersection of money and happiness, why Buffett's

0:27.9

inner scorecard can empower us to use money as a tool instead of letting money use us,

0:32.9

why the happiest people we know are oftentimes the most content, why chasing status is a game you'll never

0:38.3

be able to win, why not all of our big spending decisions need to be run through a spreadsheet,

0:43.0

the shocking story of how the Vanderbiltz lost billions of dollars due to social debt,

0:47.6

why Morgan highly prioritizes spending money on independence, and so much more.

0:52.1

During the last 15 minutes or so after I let Morgan go, I also

0:55.5

took some time to share some of my biggest lessons from reading the book. You know, money is one of

1:00.0

those really fascinating things where most people naturally assume that they would be better off

1:04.7

if they had more money. But as Morgan highlights, some of the most financially successful people

1:09.3

also turn out to be incredibly

1:11.1

miserable. So there's more to it than what meets the eye, and the psychology of why we spend

1:16.3

money the way we do is critical to understand. Anyways, the book was super fascinating, and I

1:21.4

enjoy chatting with Morgan about it, so I definitely encourage our listeners to go pick it up.

1:26.0

Without further delay, I hope you enjoy today's conversation with Morgan Hausel.

1:34.0

Since 2014 and through more than 180 million downloads, we've studied the financial

1:39.2

markets and read the books that influence self-made billionaires the most.

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