TIP728: Mastermind Q2, 2025: Microsoft, Block, Devon Energy, Adyen

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Stig Brodersen

Education, Investing, Business

4.6 • 3.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2025

⏱️ 115 minutes

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In today's episode, Stig Brodersen is talking stocks with Tobias Carlisle and Hari Ramachandra. Stig’s pick is Microsoft, the world’s biggest market cap company for good reason. Tobias is pitching Devon Energy, an oil and gas producer with a big upside if you’re right about the timing. Hari’s stocks of choice are Adyen and Block, two fast-growing companies with stronger moats that meet the eye. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 01:51 - Why Hari is bullish on Block and Adyen (Ticker on NYSE: XYZ and on Euronext: ADYEN). 12:48 - The bear case for Block and Adyen, including valuation and disruption. 24:22 - Stig’s bull case is for Microsoft (Ticker on NASDAQ: MSFT). 44:55 - The bear case for Microsoft, including the rich valuation. 56:56 - Why Toby is bullish on Devon Energy (Ticker on NYSE: DVN). 01:05:31 - The bear case of Devon Energy, including the debt level and share issuance. 01:27:06 - What the TIP Mastermind Community is and how we’re forming meaningful relationships. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join Clay and a select group of passionate value investors for a retreat in Big Sky, Montana. Learn more ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Stig Brodersen’s Portfolio and Track record. Listen to Mastermind Discussion Q1, 2025 or watch the video. Listen to Mastermind Discussion Q4, 2024 or watch the video. Listen to Mastermind Discussion Q3, 2024 or watch the video. Listen to Mastermind Discussion Q2, 2024 or watch the video. Tune in to the Mastermind Discussion Q1, 2024 or watch the video. Listen to Mastermind Discussion Q4, 2023 or watch the video. Tune in to the Mastermind Discussion Q3, 2023 or watch the video. Listen to Mastermind Discussion Q2, 2023 or watch the video. Bill Gates’ autobiography, Source Code – read reviews of this book. Stig and Preston book review of Paul Allen’s book, Idea Man. Tobias Carlisle's podcast, The Acquirers Podcast. Tobias Carlisle's ETF, ZIG. Tobias Carlisle's ETF, Deep. Tobias Carlisle's book, The Acquirer's Multiple – read reviews of this book. Tobias Carlisle's Acquirer's Multiple stock screener: AcquirersMultiple.com Tweet directly to Tobias Carlisle: @Greenbackd. Tweet directly to Hari Ramachandra: @harirama. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our ⁠⁠⁠Premium Feed⁠⁠⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠. Check out our ⁠⁠⁠We Study Billionaires Starter Packs⁠⁠⁠. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠⁠⁠sponsors⁠⁠⁠: SimpleMining⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Hardblock⁠⁠ ⁠⁠AnchorWatch⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Unchained⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Human Rights Foundation⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Onramp⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Fundrise⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Vanta⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Netsuite⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Shopify HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a ⁠⁠⁠rating and review⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://premium.theinvestorspodcast.com/ Support our show by becoming a premium member! ⁠https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0	You're listening to TIP.
0:02.7	I always look forward to a quarterly mastermind episodes with my friends, Tobias Carlisle and
0:07.2	Hira Madhandra. If you're not familiar with the format, it's when we once a quarter
0:11.2	pizza stuck to the group and discuss both the bull in the bare cases. We cover a lot of ground
0:16.5	in this episode. My pick is Microsoft, and at the time of the recording, it's the biggest market cap company
0:22.4	in the world. And we discuss if we completely miss the boat or perhaps there's more to the
0:27.7	story than meets the eye. Tobias' pick is a true value investing stock trading at only seven times
0:33.7	earnings. Demand Energy. And if you're right about the timing, you're looking at a huge upside.
0:39.9	Horri is pitching not only one stock, but two in this episode, and we'll shortly jump right
0:44.1	into it.
0:45.0	But before we do, I want to remind you to stick around for the second part of this episode,
0:50.1	when my co-host, Clayfinger, and I discuss our upcoming TLP summit.
0:54.5	Our summit this year is an in-person event in Big Sky, Montana.
0:58.3	Only 30 spots available.
1:00.3	The premise is to network with like-minded value investors, share ideas, create meaningful relationships,
1:05.7	and, of course, enjoy delicious food in a wonderful setting.
1:12.2	Since 2014 and through more than 180 million downloads,
1:16.6	we've studied the financial markets and read the books that influence self-made billionaires the most.
1:22.1	We keep you informed and prepared for the unexpected.
1:25.4	Now for your host, Stig Broderson.
1:36.8	Welcome to the Investors' podcast.
1:39.1	I'm your host,
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