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Note to Self

Tiny Estonia Beats the U.S. on E-Voting

Note to Self

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4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2013

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

The tiny Baltic nation of Estonia puts the United States to shame when it comes to electronic voting (not to mention marinated eel served cold and teaching little kids to code.)

Transcript

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0:00.0

How are you? Quick. It's a new tech city quick.

0:10.0

Tarvey Martins, you are chairman of Estonia's Electronic Voting Committee, and I have to

0:16.1

say the United States has just not even gotten close to voting online. What did you do to

0:22.8

make it happen in your country?

0:25.4

Well, first we introduce something to identify people over the internet. We introduced the ID card

0:35.0

down in 2002, and distributed that to all people. So basically everyone can log in into

0:44.7

any e-services like ancient banks, e-government services with their very solid electronic identity

0:54.6

in the form of ID card, which is like smart card. And well, the intervoting is just another

1:01.8

application for that. So what happens is when it's time to vote, you go online to the right website,

1:08.2

and do you put in your ID number or what do you do?

1:12.7

Well, you put in your ID card in your smart card reader. You enter the website, yes,

1:20.8

but you have to download and engage a special program, which is very simple. And yeah,

1:29.2

you put in your pin to identify yourself, and then you make a selection, and then you sign your

1:37.0

choice with the other pin.

1:39.2

So some of the reasons why online voting hasn't happened here is that people are concerned about

1:44.7

fraud or that voters will vote more than once, or people don't all have access to a computer.

1:53.0

Did you face any of those concerns?

1:56.3

Definitely, of course. Not everyone can really have access to the computer,

2:03.0

but the internet usage is quite high in Estonian, and then computer literacy is also not so bad.

2:11.4

So I guess there is no no problems with this part.

2:17.3

What about people voting twice? How do you make sure they don't do that?

2:20.8

Well, we encourage people to vote twice.

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