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The Bunker

Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Troll: LUKE HARDING on Russia’s new Code War

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Hold the front podcast page! The infamous Russia Report could well come out next week. What will it reveal? The Guardian’s Russia correspondent LUKE HARDING, author of Shadow State: Murder, Mayhem And Russia’s Remaking Of The West and first British journalist to be expelled from Russia since the end of the Cold War, joins Dorian Lynskey to look at what Putin really wants. How did Russia influence Brexit? Why did Robert Mueller’s investigation into Trump’s Russian collusion flop so badly? Whatever happened to the classy, erudite KGB of old? Oh, and the Secret Plot against Chris Grayling. “You have to ask, why have Johnson and Cummings burnt so much political capital on suppressing this report?” “Donald Trump is seen in Moscow as the greatest success in Russian espionage history.” “The message of Salisbury was, You may forget about us but we will never forget about you.” “Robert Mueller was like a boy scout going into Trump’s gambling den.” “Russian interference in Brexit definitely happened – whether you believe it was determinant or not.” Presented by Dorian Lynskey. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He was the Guardians Moscow Correspondent from 2007 to 2011, before becoming the first foreign

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journalist to be expelled from Russia since the end of the Cold War, a dubious honour.

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He is the author or co-author of eight books, some of which have inspired Oliver Stone Snowden,

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the Julian Assange Biopic, the Fifth Estate,

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and Lucy Preble's award-winning play, a very expensive poison.

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Following 2017's collusion,

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his latest book on the shenanigans of Putin and Trump,

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uses more formal term, Shadow State is out now. Welcome Luke Harding, thanks for joining us.

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Thanks, Dory and I'm thrilled to be with you.

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