From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

For his exhaustive new book on HBO, James Andrew Miller talked to 600 people about the network that brought us the Sopranos, The Wire, and Veep.

Behind the scenes, executives were playing their own Game of Thrones, none better than former Time Warner Chief Jeff Bucas.

He's a silent killer. He's like so affable. But meanwhile, this is the guy who took down

Steve Case. He out-moved Ted Turner. He gets to be the chairman. He beats back Rupert Murdoch

with a vicious. I mean, what he did to Murdoch after Murdoch with a vicious.

I mean, what he did to Murdoch after Murdoch tried to buy them in 2014,

Murdoch stock didn't move for five years afterwards.

In the first of a two-part interview,

two parts because this book is a thousand pages long and spans decades and much of the media world,

Miller tells us about the memorable rise and dramatic

fall of former HBO chief Michael Fuchs. Miller also touches on more recent history, the infamous

AT&T takeover that ended badly. But first we banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my associate and banter, Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt.

Hi there. So, Matt, as we are taping, we're cruising into the Thanksgiving weekend. So we are going to talk about the Thanksgiving weekend as it's unfolding.

There's a lot of stuff coming into theaters for people to see whether they go or not is a good

question. Ghostbusters got off to, I think, a pretty good start. We have Enkanto, very well-reviewed

Disney movie, and we also have Gucci, a less well-reviewed, a very campy movie from MGM.

But Netflix is trying to get into the blockbuster game. Whatever that means, in Netflix terms, they are trying to do this with Red

Notice, which is a very expensive film. And, you know, the question that we are looking at is,

can Netflix launch something that, you know, the kind of thing that a studio with franchise properties really survives on?

Yeah, that's the big question, because Netflix has sort of shifted its strategy in the past few months, and they are moving into more of these kind of PG-13 franchisable, big budget, blockbuster-style movies

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