Hey everyone, welcome to this new episode explicitly pro-life. I'm Kristen Hawkins, and today I have a very special guest in our studio. D-da-da-da-da! The Executive Vice President of Students for Life America, Tina Whittington! Yay! Yay! So today's episode is going to be win, lose, or draw. If you were a child of the 80s or the 70s, you would remember that game. If you're born in

1990s or later, you wouldn't. But I asked Tina to come on. She actually has a much better memory

of me of reminding me of my failures a lot. That's not true. I don't like, you make it sound

like I remind you all the time. Remember that time you failed, Kristen? You have a good recollection

of things that we failed at at students for life the last week's episode we had david come on and david gave us motivational talk of why we need to do more than we ever done before in 2020 so i have to live up to david you don't have to love david you have your own skill and expertise and coolness but uh so david gave us you know the why we need to fight harder than ever before in 2020,

why it's all on the line.

One of the things we kind of asked all of the listeners slash viewers to think about

is how to innovate, how to change the rules of the game,

the way the game's even being played on your campus and your

community, because one of the things that David, I think, very appropriately pointed out last

week's episode, was that in a lot of communities, the way the pro-life movement functions and what

the pro-life movement does hasn't really changed in 40 years. They go to the Apple Festival, they go to

the county fair, they do a beautiful baby contest in the parade. They go to the Apple Festival, they go to the county fair,

they do a beautiful baby contest in the parade. I'm speaking for my mom's own right-to-life group here.

Baby bottle fundraiser. Baby bottle fundraiser, but things haven't changed. And what we know from the

abortion industry is they have a very aggressive strategic plan for how their plan change the abortion industry.

They want to move away from these brick and mortar facilities. They want to get, you know,

telemedicine abortions. Basically order your abortion on Amazon is, I think, their wish list,

their goal. And so we as a pro-life movement have to be willing to change our strategies,

our tactics, not change our mission, but change those things. So I thought it'd be

fun to have you on today to talk about just leading by example, kind of showing the ways

students for life and what our team has tried to do to innovate, to change up things, to do

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