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Unless, you know, anyone in politics has got the ability to also be, you know, some kind of an entertainer, a hugely telegenic figure who can dominate the airways,

don't even think about running. That is the one and only, Tina Brown, with advice about how

Democrats and liberals should ride the waves of an era where politics and entertainment have fused.

There can be few who are better able to dispense that advice, having seen the genesis and

evolution of that age, living in Ronald Reagan's America, where she knew, among others, a nascent Donald

Trump and since spending the last 40 years in the United States. It is no exaggeration to say

that she is a titan of journalism not only in this country but in the

US as well for half a century which is remarkable when you consider she's still only 71 she has been

a player than a major player in media editor of tatler magazine at 25 of vanity fair at 30 of the New Yorker at 38. She was one half of the

ultimate media power couple, married as she was for decades, to the legendary Harry Evans,

former editor of the Sunday Times, he who uncovered the thalidomide scandal. Her list of

achievements is almost as long as her

contact book. For a woman with ink in her veins, she's turned to the digital world, starting her

own substack, fresh hell, and turned her attention to the future of journalism in an age in which

it is under siege. This is our extended conversation. Tina Brown on life in

America through the ages of Reagan to Trump, the future of our trade and whether she'd do it all again.

Welcome to the newsagents.

Well, we're joined now by the indefatigable, the relentless, the famous substacker, Tina Brown.

Tina, thanks so much for coming in.

So thrilled to be here instead of just listening, which is what I do every morning on my way to the breakfast diner in New York.

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