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And welcome back, George Norrie, along with Joseph L. Flatley.

His book is called The Occult Timothy Leary.

His website is linked up at coast-to-coastam.com.

Joseph, what did you learn about Timothy Leary that you did not know prior to writing the book?

Well, you know, it's, I mean, a lot.

But I think really the thing that impressed me the most was that, you know, if you take his writing or his speeches or his media from any particular part of his career,

whether it be talking about virtual reality in the personal computer in the 80s and 90s,

or whether he talk about, you know, more mainstream psychology in the 50s or he talk

about psychedelic drugs in the 60s. There is a real, he was always kind of talking about the same thing.

There was a real connection between his thought, like a real through line.

And it just, I was just really impressed by his, although he comes across as a character,

underlying all of his kind of media pranks and his sense of humor is a real seriousness of this,

a real seriousness, a real serious project to like kind of help

humanity evolve to whatever its next stage is supposed to be.

So remarkable consistency.

I mean, I could have started this show or this book and found that there was no there

there and then he really was just all smoking mirrors

but um i have to say it's exactly the opposite the guy was a genius and he was a great thinker

and his stuff is really i think interesting and applicable today it is and he died deep into

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