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Welcome to How to Money.

I'm Joel.

And I am Matt.

And today we're talking to spend our most precious resource, but it's not often that we take the time to figure out

how it is that we're going to spend our minutes and our hours, which then inevitably turn into

weeks and years. And then if you completely fail to do this, that is when you end up as the

proverbial careerist, right, where you're looking back at the wasted decades, wishing that you would have done something

differently.

And luckily, our guest today, Ben Miller, he actually did shake things up.

He traded a position on Wall Street with Goldman Sachs for a fulfilling life out there in Colorado.

He chose meaning over money.

And he's actually on a quest to help others to discover what a fulfilling life is for them with the software that he's developed, Chronify. So we're going to talk about that. And, you know, I'm excited for what I think will be a wide ranging conversation all about personal finances. But specifically with time at the center of pretty much everything that we talk about today. So Ben Miller, thank you so much for joining us today on the podcast. Thanks a lot for having me. I'm excited to be here. Ben, we're excited for this combo. And Matt and I, we, you know, we like craft beer. And everyone knows that at this point. No secret. But we spent, I think the current beer, it's just one single can of beer. And it costs like $7.50, which a lot of people would say. That's crazy. I need a 12-pack. Is that the accurate price tag right there on that? I think so. Yeah. It literally says $7.29. It's not cheap. That's ridiculous. Right. So we spend too much, some would say, on craft beer, but we're also being intentional.

We're saving and investing for the future while we spend exorbitantly on something that we care about.

I'm curious, what's that for you? What's your craft beer equivalent?

My craft beer equivalent, I'd say, would definitely have to be strategy board games.

So I'm outing myself as a huge dork here, but those sometimes can go for like a hundred bucks a pop, but well worth it. Hours of family fun.

Okay, which game, because I think Matt and I share this love, by the way.

Yes, we also are nerdy, our lovers of nerdy board games. But when we go on our beach vacation, every night, every night we're there, we're playing a nerdy board game.

Carcassone, Sellers of Catan, we're playing. Puerto Rico. Acquire. Acquire has been a big one. So what game? You guys know the whole gamut then. This is normally people's eyes glaze over when I, yeah, yeah. They're like, wait, are you talking about monopoly? we're like yeah no, no, we're not, like, leave that for the kids.

Right.

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