Timber Wars
Reveal
The Center for Investigative Reporting and PRX
4.7 • 8.7K Ratings
🗓️ 10 July 2021
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
Thirty years ago, activists and scientists turned a fight over the spotted owl and ancient trees into one of the biggest environmental conflicts of the century. The process transformed the way we see – and fight over – the natural world.
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| 0:00.0 | From the Center for Investigative Reporting in PRX, this is Reveal. |
| 0:07.2 | I'm Al Leitzen. |
| 0:08.7 | The wildfire season started early this year, which has people worried that it could be as bad as last year. |
| 0:14.8 | And for people like me who live on the West Coast, well, that's terrifying because last year's wildfire season was horrific. |
| 0:23.7 | Dim orange skies, air that was dangerous to breathe, and ash falling from above for weeks |
| 0:30.1 | on end, not to mention the actual fires themselves. |
| 0:35.2 | Here in California, more than four million acres, an area bigger than Connecticut, |
| 0:40.8 | were incinerated. There were record-setting fires all over the West. This is Oregon Governor |
| 0:47.0 | Cape Brown on CBS's Face the Nation. Every year for the last 10 years, we burn about 500,000 |
| 0:53.2 | acres. This year, this week alone, we burn about 500,000 acres. |
| 1:00.0 | This year, this week alone, we've burned over a million acres of Beautiful Oregon. |
| 1:06.3 | When the governor talks about beautiful Oregon, she's talking about places like Mill City in the western foothills of the Cascade Mountains. |
| 1:09.8 | It's surrounded by towering force. |
| 1:12.7 | I want to say about 9.30, 10 o'clock at night, I started hearing our fire whistle blow off in town. |
| 1:21.2 | Tim Kirsch is the mayor of Mill City. |
| 1:23.9 | I'm telling people that are in their driveways, need to pack up and or at least be ready to go in just, you know, in an instant. |
| 1:33.7 | Mill City was largely spared, but the towns surrounding it were leveled. |
| 1:39.9 | Every year that we see massive fires like that one, the debate picks up over the best ways to keep our forests from going up in smoke. |
| 1:49.1 | Some argue we need to cut down more trees to prevent fires and plant saplings that will soak up carbon. |
| 1:56.9 | Others argue our history of logging is the problem. |
| 2:00.2 | They say we should cut down fewer trees and use fire as a tool to help young forests grow into old ones. |
| 2:08.6 | Both sides believe their plans would help reverse climate change, even though they have opposite ways of getting there. |
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