I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now.

Tim's story is an ordained minister who has shared his inspiring words in 70 different

countries. He's written nine books, including his most recent Come Back and Beyond. He's

also a motivational speaker and life coach who's worked with Quincy Jones, Stevie Wonder,

Robert Downey Jr., Kanye West, and many others.

Well, I love every word of this book. It just feels like I should have it running on a tape

in my brain all the time. So congratulations.

Thank you very much.

How did you come to this to understand that we all have setbacks, but that there's always

a comeback for all of us?

You know, when I was a little guy, my father passed away when I was 10. And before that,

I had so much energy and joy. I was playing baseball. I was a dancer. And then to have to

hear my mother crying because of my father passing. All of a sudden, I went from a rhythm

of life, a glide, a skip in my step. And then I was in the middle of a setback at 10.

And I saw that my siblings, they kind of got stuck right there. And they began to

medicate themselves rather than find ways to solve the dilemma.

So you knew at 10 that you were in a setback. Yes.

But could you call it that where you like a clinically depressed? There's a little kid.

I didn't have a name for it. A language for it.

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