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To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Tim O'Brien: Trump is a Chaos Agent in a Chaotic World

To The Contrary with Charlie Sykes

Charlie Sykes

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.9719 Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Charlie Sykes sits down with Bloomberg Opinion’s Tim O’Brien to talk about the chaos and consequences of Donald Trump’s second term. From the “No Kings” rallies and the weaponization of the IRS to fears of a politicized military, they examine how America’s democratic institutions are holding up—or falling apart. They also talk about whether a new resistance movement is finally taking shape in a nation struggling to remember its constitutional soul.

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I'm Charlie Sykes. Welcome to the To the Contrary podcast. Boy, to talk about unusual times later today. Of course, there are going to be the No King's Rallies all across the country. We have the Bolton indictment. We have, well, there's just so much going on. So who better to talk about this with? And Bloomberg opinions, Tim O'Brien, who has been

2:02.8

covering Donald Trump for decades now. I mean, if there was a university of Trumpology,

2:08.2

you would be the dean, right? So, you know, welcome back on the show, Tim. I'm probably a

2:14.6

survivor rather than a dean, you know, given the world that we're in.

2:19.6

It's, you know, you survive the Trump year.

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