Tim Miller: Trump’s Treatment of Marco Rubio is Utterly HUMILIATING
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🗓️ 7 May 2026
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Tim Miller joins Nicole Wallace on MSNBC with General Mark Hertling to discuss the Iran war chaos—Trump undercut Rubio twice in one day, the ceasefire is already wobbling, and the "deal" is one page long. Plus: Trump declared war on the Pope and is losing that one too.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody, Tim Miller from the bulwark. |
| 0:01.7 | I was over on MS now with my girl Nicole Wallace and also my bulwark colleague, General Mark Hurtling, which was such a treat. |
| 0:09.8 | And we were talking a bunch about the ongoing Iran negotiations. |
| 0:14.6 | I got to talk a little bit at the end about Pope Leo, the Bullwark Pope. |
| 0:19.6 | But much of the focus was on Marco Rubio and his political |
| 0:24.2 | standing. I even, I got the opportunity to woof. I wanted to just actually do the barking noise. |
| 0:31.3 | Woof, woof, but I felt like that was maybe a little much for cable news. Why might you ask, did I want to bark on cable news? |
| 0:39.8 | Well, it's because we were talking about how Donald Trump is walking Marco Rubio around like |
| 0:44.3 | a little puppy. |
| 0:45.8 | And Marco went out and did a press conference where he talked about how Project |
| 0:50.1 | Freedom is happening. |
| 0:51.3 | And the two hours later, Trump's like, no, it's not. |
| 0:55.6 | And it's just humiliating. And Nicole was like, why does he do it? And I said, because he's on a little leash. |
| 1:01.0 | And he wants to woof for daddy. So I talked about this a little bit on the show, but it wasn't really |
| 1:07.5 | the main point since we're talking about Iran. So I'll expand it on it some, which is Ruby 2020. |
| 1:13.0 | And a little teaser. |
| 1:14.5 | We get into this with Sarah on the focus group this week coming up on Saturday. |
| 1:18.9 | Your boys on the focus group. |
| 1:20.2 | So mark a little alarm button for that. |
| 1:23.5 | And I just had a little bit of regrets about, and I'm not going to tell you |
| 1:29.2 | any more than this, but in the teaser, there is a lot of buzz right now for Mark |
| 1:31.7 | out among the base. |
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