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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Tim Miller & Stuart Stevens: Trump Can’t Change & Vance Won’t Fly

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2024

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

John is joined by two veteran G.O.P. operatives turned #NeverTrump stalwarts—Mitt Romney's 2012 chief strategist, Stuart Stevens, and The Bulwark's Tim Miller—to discuss the opening night of the Republican National Convention and the extraordinary weekend that preceded it, when an assassin’s bullet nearly claimed Donald Trump’s life. Tim and Stuart assess Trump’s subdued entrance and rapturous reception in the convention hall, his choice of J.D. Vance as his running mate, and the possibility he might emerge as a less incendiary, more unifying figure (which they deem close to nil). And they offer dramatically divergent points of view on whether Democrats should dump or double down on Joe Biden. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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namaste everyone, and welcome to Inpolitic with John Heilman, my new podcast on politics and culture for

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So get on that and then come back over here to the audio prefecture of the

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impolitic empire where we drop fresh episodes twice a week every Tuesday

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every Friday featuring fresh spirited candy conversations with the people who

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room the quarters of power and influence in America shaping our culture and especially our politics.

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This week I am in Milwaukee for a Republican National Convention that arrives at an extraordinary moment in what for many, many, many months

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had been a tepid, torpid, tedious turnoff of a presidential election, an uninspiring

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sequel starring two senescent leading men that the vast majority of the electorate did not want to see

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And then out of nowhere and in quick succession two seismic events jolted the race

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first Joe Biden's debate debacle in Atlanta nearly three weeks ago and then the heinous, horrifying, nearly tragic

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attempt on Donald Trump's life at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday night.

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Suddenly, tens of millions of Americans who'd been studiously averting their eyes from the campaign for months

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were watching, wrapped, and talking about little else.

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That Trump's brush with death and his swaggering,

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clench fist, fight, fight, fight, fight survival

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that he pulled off came on the eve of the GOP convention, turned that event into must

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