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Tim Miller’s HISTORIC Summit with Barstool's KFC

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Tim Miller invades Barstool HQ for a real talk with KFC about Trump, politics, and “free speech.”

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0:00.0

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0:01.9

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0:21.1

bulwark. I'm in New York for MSNBC and decided while I was here that I should do some

0:27.5

political anthropology, going to the Lions Den a little bit. And so I visited the guys over at

0:33.6

Barstool Sports. For folks who don't know Barstool, it's an unbelievably popular site that began a sports,

0:40.7

but now does sports culture, some politics, reality shows, a bunch of stuff.

0:45.1

And, you know, they tend to have a reputation as being fratty.

0:49.1

So their biggest names, like Dave Portnoy had interviewed President Trump, and they've got

0:53.9

some prominent folks

0:55.8

that are pretty MAGA.

0:57.7

And so a lot of times people in Democratic world look at Barstool and see it as, you know,

1:03.6

I don't know, what would be the pejorative?

1:05.8

Just a bunch of a bunch of fucking dude bros who just care about tiths and and are kind of crass and

1:14.8

are not natural allies to the Democrats. And I've just, I can, I just reject that world

1:23.3

view. I always have. I think that a lot of these guys were Obama voters.

1:28.7

And I think that it's incumbent on the Democrats to try to get them back.

1:32.7

And it doesn't mean that they just got to prioritize frat pros over every other demo.

1:37.4

But it does mean there's got to be like a concerted effort to reach out to them,

1:40.1

just like there was a concertive effort to reach out to any demographic.

1:43.3

And so I went over there, shout with this guy, KFC, Kevin Clancy.

1:47.6

And KFC is one of the more visible guys over there.

1:51.1

And he had did this really compelling Instagram pushing back against the FCC efforts to bully stations into not carrying Kimmel.

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