The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others. Every week I'm bringing you a

conversation with a Christ follower who is pursuing world-class mastery of

their craft. We talk about their path to mastery, we talk about their daily habits. of their guest really needs no introduction but I'm going to give him one anyway. On my

list of dream guests for this podcast he is easily numbers one through five.

That's right today I'm talking with Tim Keller. He of course is the founding

pastor of Herdamer Presbyterian Church in New York City and author of some of the

best-selling books of our time, including the reason for God,

the prodigal God, and of course, every good endeavor.

If that title sounds familiar to you, it's probably because it's the most recommended book by guests of the

call to mastery. It's also kind of the reason why this podcast exists, why my

work exists, why my books exist. Years ago, I read every good endeavor. First time I really understood the biblical

narrative for work, it's what inspired me to write called to create, and the rest of history.

Nobody has had a greater impact on my faith and my work than Tim

talk about a tough interview to prepare for by the way my wife Kara we were talking just

before this she's like what the world are you to ask the person who's had such a profound impact on your life? It wasn't easy calling it all down. But Tim and I sat down. We talked about how the church should respond to COVID-19. Which of his books he hoped would reach a wider audience

than they eventually did. And we talked about LeCray and C.S. Lewis and other artists

that point to God's master narrative for the world through

their work. You guys are going to love this conversation. Without further ado,

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