Hey, everybody, Tim Miller from the bulwark here.

We're doing something a little different.

I'm bringing in Dylan Hausman, who's editor and chief over at The Daily Caller.

Many of you might have seen.

We did a video, I guess, a couple weeks ago now, that was maybe mocking a little bit

an interview that one of Dylan's reporters did with President Trump.

The Daily Caller, a right-wing news outlet, dropped an interview with Donald Trump. I do believe that irony is dead following the interview. It is a doozy. There's much to get into, much to discuss. That was titled, if you want to go watch that. Bizarre, Trump interview spirals into absurdity. We'll put a link in the notes here. Dylan reached out,

thought maybe we were a little harsher unfair, and I thought this would be a good opportunity

to talk across areas of difference, something I'm trying to do more over here on the page.

And so we're having them on here. Dylan, for folks who don't know, the daily caller, how would

you define the daily caller? It's a conservative right wing, however you want to define that news publication. Founded 15 years

ago or so, founded by Tucker Carlson back in the day. He's no longer involved. He's once he went to Fox.

But that was where it was founded. We do conservative news, some opinion stuff. But, you know, we try to be a news fact-based outlet, you know. I was going to go reflect on the interview first. Since you mentioned it, what do you make a Tucker these days? You know, I think Tucker is doing really well with TCM, is my understanding. And I think he is certainly tapped into something that, you know, a lot of other commentators haven't. I think it started when he was on Fox News, frankly. He was willing to talk about certain things that a lot of other mainstream commentators weren't. And so when he left Fox, I think he's continued to do that. And it seems to be going really well for him. I mean, some of the stuff seems pretty crazy, though. I mean, like, you know, the National Enquirer also taps into things that other people don't want to.

There's a lot of people. I mean, some of the stuff seems pretty crazy, though. I mean, like, you know, the National Enquirer also taps into things that other people don't want.

There's a lot of ways to tap into things that people want that's maybe not healthy and nutritious for folks.

And what was with the hummus eaters in Charlie Kirk's funeral?

And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamplit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus thinking about what

we do about this guy telling the truth about us we must make him stop talking and there's always

one guy with the bright idea and I could just hear him say I've got an idea why don't we just kill him

that'll shut him up that'll fix the problem. You know, I didn't watch, I did not watch the full Charlie Kirk Memorial. I have to say, I watched Erica's speech. I watched Trump's speech. So, you know, the homocaders comment, people, you know, he said he thought people were taking it out of context. He didn't think it came across that way. So that was his statement on it and, you know, speaks for itself, I think.

All right, let's just talk to the interview.

Mostly, I actually want to get your take on the Trump administration broadly,

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