Welcome to Kfarrowcast, everyone. We're still coming at you free, unsponsored. I want to make sure to throw that in. I've got Frank playing on his phone across from me. Say hello, Frank. I've got the great hammer, Tim Gillingham, on the other line, man. I appreciate you coming on here.

No problem, my life. My pleasure. It's always good to come on here and bash a guy that can go on a seven-day elk cut without a freaking pair of binoculars. I forgot. You're still giving me crap about that. You did that? I did. I didn't want to carry him. When the fuck did you do that? Not only did he do it, he talked somebody else into it, too.

Yeah, there's some truth in that. It was Doug Rosen. I was like, yeah, you don't need those, man. Yeah, that was a pretty timbered unit. Yeah, we're on it all over. I'm the guy pushing for sanity. But I was a guy pushing for sanity, like, hey, maybe we should call some guy to pack our meat out.

No, I'll... yeah we're on it all over i'm the guy pushing for sanity like hey maybe we should call some guy to pack our meat out no and Snyder's like no i'll pack it out yeah that's what you

got aaron for cutting weight for binocos i guess so he can pack elk meat yeah there's a logic

you can see where the i'm kind of a logical guy.

We just want to get that out right at the beginning of this.

Sometime I'm impervious to logic.

Didn't seem not that important at a time.

But so today we're going to beat a dead horse even farther to death,

which is arrow setups, spine, dynamic spine, FOC, broadheads, target archery.

And for the most part, I think Tim and I agree pretty much on a lot of the stuff.

There's a few things we're probably a little bit off on.

And it's good to have Tim on here because he's not afraid to tell me to shut up.

So this should be a good one, I would

imagine. I guess my first question for you is how much in the last six months or so have you

been dealing with the crazy high FOC crowd? I call them the Ashton followers, but yeah, it's really a big thorn in my side, really, because

I think most of it's ego-driven.

You know, it's kind of a measuring contest, if you would say.

By the way, you can say whatever you want to on here. This is an explicit podcast, so you can drop whatever bomb you want.

Yeah, but I can't.

It's, you know, it drives me crazy because most of it's been propagated by guys that,

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