Greetings, parish orphans and retrogrades. Happy Friday. I am here with Mr. Timothy Flanders, my friend and cohort, from last week's debate on the Mass of the Ages YouTube channel.

And we're just going to be doing a little friendly debrief after the debate against each other, partly to show you begin and

and as friends when you do this the right way. There will be some other points we tend to that I think

will show the same. But Tim Philandis, how are you doing, man? Oh, do it very well. Jesus is King.

How are you doing, brother? Jesus is king. And therefore, I am,

I'm so well. I'm so well. You know, man, I one thing, let me just start out by saying this.

One thing I, I've always liked a lot about you, Tim, aside from the fact that you're a good dude.

You have good friends.

I like your buddy Jeremiah a lot.

I like the project at Meaning of Catholic to attempt to, let me start over, to authentically,

sincerely attempt to host debates and to be open-minded,

which is not a strength of the right-wing Catholic approach to things.

It's not.

And your approach is mine.

So when they wanted me to do a friendly debate with you, I said, that'll be cool because what's needed is to not necessarily unite the clans or anything like that.

I think that's always relativistic.

The clans will remain what they are.

But it is important to while acknowledging that there are probably going to be maintained differences

between different camps within conservatism or Catholicism,

even within traditional Catholicism, as people saw last week on the channel, the debate that you and I had,

it's weird not to acknowledge that when you're

debating someone that's this far away from you, that you ought to have that much more elbow

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