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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Tim Ferriss on suffering, psychedelics, and spirituality

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.5 • 11.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2017

⏱️ 112 minutes

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Summary

Tim Ferriss is the author of the 4-Hour Workweek, as well as the new book, Tools of Titans. He’s also the host of The Tim Ferriss Show, which is one of my favorite podcasts, and an inspiration for this show. Tim is a relentless optimizer, and on his program, he interviews fascinating people to discover how they work, think, and get things done. It’s a show about the secrets of high performers. Here, I ask Tim about basically the reverse of that. How does he think about the parts of his life that, though crucial, are harder to optimize and systematize? We discuss friendship, love, psychedelics, spirituality, death, health, and whether it’s possible to get too addicted to productivity hacks. Amidst all that, we dig into:-Why Tim’s house is filled with reminders of his eventual death-Why he tries to build new friendships atop a foundation of shared suffering-Why he hasn't written a book on romantic relationships and probably won't-How productivity goes bad-How a serious bout of Lyme disease changed how he lives his life-Why some strange experiences on psychedelics convinced him there’s much more to this world than we understand-The difficulty of describing a sneeze-How his interviews have evolved since doing his podcast-What he feels constitutes good adviceOn his own show, Tim is always trying to offer takeaways and lessons about how to live, and he does that here, too. This episode is packed with ideas you can apply to your own life. Books:-David Deida’s The Way of the Superior Man-Frank Luntz’s Words That Work-Ted Chiang’s Stories of Your Life and Others-Peter Drucker’s The Effective Executive-Sebastian Junger’s Tribe-Oliver Sacks’ Gratitude-Less is More, an anthology on minimalist thinking-Ann Lamont’s Bird by Bird-Frank Herbert’s Dune-The Magic of Thinking Big by David Schwartz-Nikos Kazantzakis’ Zorba the Greek-Josh Waitzkin’s The Art of Learning Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for the show comes from Into the Mix, a Ben and Jerry's podcast about joy and

0:06.1

justice produced with Vox Creative.

0:09.6

Thousands of Afghans fled their homes when the Taliban took control of Afghanistan in 2021.

0:15.2

The UK government pledged to take in 20,000 of them as refugees, but in the first year

0:20.2

only 22 Afghans had been approved for asylum in the UK.

0:24.6

So what happened?

0:26.4

And what does this mean for the tens of thousands of people left behind?

0:30.4

Hear that story on the latest episode of Into the Mix.

0:35.9

On July 21st, the cinematic experience of the summer arrives.

0:40.6

Written indirected by Christopher Nolan, Oppenheimer is an epic thriller about the man

0:44.6

who risked destroying the world for the one chance to save it.

0:48.4

Featuring an incredible cast including Robert Downey Jr. Emily Bluntz, Oscar winner's

0:52.4

Matt Damon and Kenneth Brandock, Oscar nominee Florence Pugh, and Killing Murphy at J.

0:57.5

Robert Oppenheimer.

0:59.4

In theaters to live 21st, rated R.

1:04.6

The following podcast contains explicit language.

1:19.8

Hello, welcome to another episode of The Ezra Client Show.

1:22.5

I am really excited about today's show.

1:24.4

My guest is Tim Ferris, who is the author of Tools of Titans as well as the Four Hour Body

1:29.9

Workweek Chef series.

1:32.3

Tim is someone who I've got to know a little bit in the last couple of years and more importantly

1:36.0

who's podcasted I got to know quite a bit in the last couple of years.

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