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Tim Falls For New Dutch PM? (w/ Stan Veuger)

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Tim Miller brings on Dutch economist Stan Veuger for some good news. The Netherlands just elected a young, upbeat, openly gay prime minister who’s talking optimism, growth, and even building new cities, and somehow, it’s working.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, it's Tim Miller with the Bullwork. Welcome back to our page. I couldn't be happier

0:03.8

to be bringing on my buddy Stan Boyger from over at AEI. He's a senior fellow. He is a native Dutchman. We have great news for the people of our YouTube feed, which is so rare. We have to do this together. The good news is in the Netherlands, not in America, but you know, that's okay, right i think so. Are we calling you Dutch? What do you call yourselves? What do we call the people of the Netherlands? Well, we call ourselves Netherlands. Netherlands. Yeah, but Dutch, that's just good. Dutch America. That's just good. Okay. Well, this is going to be a big change for me because for me, I always abided by the old, you know, Austin Powers line, that there are only two things in the world. I can't stand.

0:41.2

People who are, Well, this is going to be a big change for me because for me, I always abided by the old, you know, Austin Powers line.

0:39.2

That there are only two things in the world.

0:40.5

I can't stand people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch, which will put on the screen for people at a gold finger.

0:46.5

But maybe that's not true.

0:47.7

It just turned out is not true.

0:48.8

And I want to tell you why, Stan, because I read this article and it's like it's almost too but good to be true the

0:56.2

dutch you're going to have a new prime minister rob jetton he's a he's a gay man all the good

1:02.1

things are gay he's married to nicholas keenan an argentine field hockey player who I have to admit

1:07.3

is kind of handsome he ran for office as like a quasi, I guess a central leftist.

1:12.5

You can tell me I'm reading this article.

1:14.7

He is positive.

1:15.5

He has a lot of positivity.

1:17.1

He is an abundance liberal.

1:19.3

He is patriotic.

1:20.7

He says he wants to attack the far right aggressively when you need to.

1:25.1

He also has pretty left on economics.

1:45.4

But he's for a big tent. I mean, pinch me. Is this true? Is this what's happening? Well, that's mostly true. You know, he wants to build that new cities, he says, you know, like real abundance, liberalism there. New cities. I'm for new cities. So that's that all sounds okay, a little,

1:51.4

you know, a little more lefty on economics than I would like to see. And so I think, you know,

1:58.2

he's been reasonably inspirational as those things go. He had Wilders, who is our sort of famous right-wing politician, you know, predates Trump even. He's our longest

2:03.2

serving member of parliament by an eight-year margin now. Like, he's never going to go away.

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